"Clean Coal" Claims that Solar can't handle Baseload power demands!

[aerohead]

Originally Posted by freebeard

Stand the equation on it's head. Why do people insist on living beyond their means?

I don't think we're allowed to talk about it the way we'd need to talk about it.

[aerohead]

Originally Posted by freebeard

I'm not sure how you get the Horizontal Rule tag to work.

...as well as the reference you referenced.

Please see # 70 permalink, where legerdemain 'passes' for reality.

[freebeard]

Originally Posted by aerohead

Please see # 70 permalink, where legerdemain 'passes' for reality.

Thx, but when I quote your entire post it omits the title and horizontal rule. How do you do that?

Originally Posted by oil pan 4

Papers and theory says one thing and real world says another.

I read that as "In theory there is no difference between theory and practice, but...."

[aerohead]

Originally Posted by freebeard

Thx, but when I quote your entire post it omits the title and horizontal rule. How do you do that?


I read that as "In theory there is no difference between theory and practice, but...."

In science, when a 'hypothesis' can be quantified mathematically, and empirically tested, if it 'passes' the test, it becomes 'theory', which can now be taught.
Einstein's hypothesis of relativity became the Theory of Relativity once atomic clocks ( one on the ground, and one in a aircraft) exhibited Einstein's time-dilation, exactly as predicted by the math.
I got dosed with 4-years of theory in my 'liberal' education at college.

[freebeard]

I got dosed with 4-years of theory in my 'liberal' education at college.

Via Honors English, I was introduced to the French Existentialist philosophers. Over the ensuing decades that has morphed into Antifa and compelled speech laws.

[aerohead]

Originally Posted by freebeard

Via Honors English, I was introduced to the French Existentialist philosophers. Over the ensuing decades that has morphed into Antifa and compelled speech laws.

I didn't look at philosophy until I got into logic.
William of Ockham really did a number on me.
The book, 'The Invention of Science' covers all philosophy.

[redpoint5]

No utility has gone 100% solar with their customers getting a reduction in their bill. There is no other evidence needed because it's the unassailable argument. That's the argument that must be defeated, and deflecting to anything else is evidence of no argument.

Your so-called citation is not credible because you simply list names and organizations. That's not how citation works. I could counter by citing The Science, all of it. Just go study all of science, and then get back to me.

Though this is completely unnecessary given the single unassailable fact presented above that requires no further support, I present this as well.



I guess China is building all those expensive and polluting coal plants because... they're dumb? Coal is the #2 electricity source for the US (behind natural gas) because we're dumb? Coal is the largest source of electricity globally because the whole world is dumb?

I've got no particular interest in coal being the future of electricity generation and no opposition to the possibility of solar or wind sucking less in the future. I don't live in the future though, I live right now. It's absurdities like "As of 1989, Coal and Solar PV were of equal cost, $ 0.30-kWh" that undermine the credibility of the cause. No reasonable person would uncritically accept that as truth and instantly be converted to that religion. Only the most unsophisticated thinkers would fall for such a statement.

[freebeard]

I didn't look at philosophy until I got into logic.

The French Existentialist's were Frankfurt School Marxists, not philosophers. It was the begining of the suborning of the educational system.

Once I was past college and the military, I dove into P.D.Ouspensky

P. D. Ouspensky
Pyotr Demianovich Ouspenskii was a Russian esotericist known for his expositions of the early work of the Greek-Armenian teacher of esoteric doctrine George Gurdjieff. He met Gurdjieff in Moscow in 1915, and was associated with the ideas and practices originating with Gurdjieff from then on.Wikipedia

Then moved on to Arthur M. Young (Reflexive Universe and The Geometry of Meaning), Robt. Anton Wilson, Timothy Leary and of course Fuller's Synergetics.

Originally Posted by redpoint5

No utility has gone 100% solar with their customers getting a reduction in their bill. There is no other evidence needed because it's the unassailable argument.

The argument is moot if the solar is generated at point of use, obviating the Utilities role.

[redpoint5]

Originally Posted by freebeard

The argument is moot if the solar is generated at point of use, obviating the Utilities role.

Sure, but we're not arguing that personal solar is cheaper than personal coal generation.

[freebeard]

That used to be a thing:

https://www.fao.org › 3 › x5872e › x5872e0b.htm
9. ENERGY USE OF PEAT - Food and Agriculture Organization
Peat has been used as a form of energy for at least 2 000 years. It was useful as an alternative to firewood for cooking and heating in temperate and boreal regions of Europe, in particular Ireland, England, the Netherlands, Germany, Sweden, Poland, Finland and the USSR.

Now we have Magic Rocks.