The climate change consensus extends beyond climate scientists

[freebeard]

Originally Posted by aerohead

As I understand it,these are observations.The experiments and data are reproducible.
There's nothing 'theoretical' about it.

Observations improve. Here's GOES14 at a 1 per minute frame rate:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=JPySY3CpgtQ

Earthspots are not high or low air pressure, but an electrical phenomenon at the convergence.

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Al I know,is that there are historical precedents which illustrate that an entire population's priorities can be re-directed with the media within 72-hours.

Did you see what happened in Armenia? Qanon mentions that itself is the most searched term online and days later the PM is out and people are dancing in the streets.

https://threadreaderapp.com/thread/9...945172992.html

This is an end-run around the media.

[oil pan 4]

If wind and solar are so cheap and so quick to build why after 20 years of wide scale adoption has it barely carved out a sliver on our total energy produced pie chart?

I only have a 2 year associates degree in wind and solar power generation as of 2016, but what do I know.

Originally Posted by aerohead

I'd be hard-pressed to believe that any celestial mechanics has been overlooked or omitted from the climate models.You're talking about NASA you know?

The guy that reviewed that paper in 2009, James Shirley works at nasa JPL and edited the encyclopedia of interplanetary sciences. Right now he appears to be studying the effects of solar minimum on mars climate. Probably because of the political back lash attached to suggestion that man made global warming may not be the driving force behind climate change on earth.
You might say he sees the big picture like no one else.

[NeilBlanchard]

Originally Posted by oil pan 4

So now they have to resort to extortion to push the climate change agenda.
This is great news.
Soon it's going to come crashing down.

Yes, civil rights movements extorted South Africa to end Apartheid by divestment. That's it!

[NeilBlanchard]

Originally Posted by oil pan 4

Neil saidjust a few pages back the sun has nothing to do with the climate.

Huh?

[NeilBlanchard]

Originally Posted by Fat Charlie

I can see the original contractor telling the admirals that. "And this will be underwater several times a year, but everyone will quickly say not to worry, it's been like that as long as anyone can remember." Docks are generally meant to stay above water level. Mil-Spec docks even more so, unless being submersible was one of the specs in the contract.

We, the taxpayers, have paid a lot of money to raise the docks at Norfolk.

Why is that, I wonder? Could it be that they have seen about 18" higher sea level?

[NeilBlanchard]

Originally Posted by oil pan 4

Which law of science are you referring to as the one that proves the atmosphere warms when certain gas levels are increased?
I have spent upwards of 6,000 to 7,000 dollars on them, so obviously I love them.
My position is that the climate has been changing for the last several billion years and now man thinks he is the driving force.
I have always said the planet is warming, as it has been for the last 10,000 to 12,000 years, i would be more worried if it were cooling and man likely has some effect.

Look up John Tyndall.

We KNOW that humans are driving climate change, because of the three isotopes of carbon.

Look it up. Tell us what you learn.

[freebeard]

Yes, civil rights movements extorted South Africa to end Apartheid by divestment. That's it!

And now it's all crashing down. The only hope I see is to partition the country with the Khoisan and Whites on one side and the Bantu on the other.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/History_of_South_Africa

[oil pan 4]

That carbon isotope thing is only telling us what portion is released by man. We know we use a lot of carbon fuel, something to the tune of 15 quadrillion BTU per year.

[All Darc]

South Africa, a british colony it was...
Australia was also a colony from British, but no as racist as the deep racism of South Africa.
Why???

South Africa, even after slavism end, treated black people like trash, didn't gave education and ways to develope a civilized culture (past of rival tribes joined by force), and after they (blacks) took power they didn't manage to keep the country productive and safe, since these populations was neve educated to be civilized, but mostly expolited.

The white south africans was very racist, and many are paying for it now. But the good-will whites are in the same situation.

[freebeard]

Everybody racist.

The Khoisan were invaded by the Bantu (remember Shaka Zulu?), then the Dutch arrived, then the English, then the diamonds which lead to colluding with Israel on nuclear weapons, the global boycott which inverted the power structure. It's complicated.