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Old 08-31-2018, 02:56 AM   #2651 (permalink)
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The difference between the green power fan boys and me is I have been formally educated on the subject, been to numerous wind farms, solar farms, been inside wind turbines, wind turbine control rooms, ect.
By comparison, everyone else just reads bias news articles written by people with English degrees...

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Old 08-31-2018, 03:08 AM   #2652 (permalink)
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By comparison, everyone else just reads bias news articles written by people with English degrees...
Or summaries shared on Twitter.

I have two old Hondas. On any given day, there is always a chance that one will not start. There is also a chance that neither will start, so neither car is an adequate backup for the other. However, old cars are a poor analogy for inconsistent power sources.

I never need to prepare for my car working too well.

What do you do when it is cloudy and calm? What do you do when it is sunny and exceptionally windy?
 
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Old 08-31-2018, 03:35 AM   #2653 (permalink)
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If you are in the business of wind or solar power with the first one you lose money and the second one you make money.

I say celebrate diversity. Coal, natural gas, nuclear, hydroelectric, wind and solar, even geo thermal.
But not oil, no one likes using crude oil petroleum products for utility power generation.
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Look at Iowa - they are now getting over 31% of their electricity from wind. They are building more and more turbines all the time.
I wish someone would post the cost and production as they do for the solar farms. And a follow through of longevity. The one study I found showed onshore and off shore turbines in Germany and Denmark to be at 30% failure in 15 years and 7 years
 
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Please don't take me wrong or as offensive. But... Why so much people in this forum see Jordan Peterson (The right wing canadian psychologist who wants to socialize pu...y) as a semi God ?

About good X evil... I noticed that media in old days was quite cretins trying to fake, make fool of people, forcing a fake image of thenselves as good guys. Today they don't try it, since it have considerable limits, but try to make people as cretins as them, to the poor cretins with no power see no harm on rich powerfull cretins.

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God must love the Common Law, because he made it so d*mn common.


I recommend 12 Rules for Living, but if —like me— Internet has ruined your ability read off paper, try Akira the Don's Reasonwave on Youtube:

https://www.youtube.com/results?sear...ordan+peterson

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I do.

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Wind turbines are not very safe for birds and for those climb guys :



 
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If it was easy, everyone would be doing it. Some jobs are hazardous. That's why they pay more.
 
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Bladeless wind turibine:



But I bet it's way more expensive than the already espensibe wind turbines with blades !

And energy from grond X atmosphere :




Hard to beliese it can be usefull...

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Not a bladeless turbine. It's more closely related to Tesla's Wydencliff tower, involving massive grounding cable network (where the second video says 'not to scale'). the electrostatic motor he uses produces almost no torque.

Oregon hates windmill workers? One of R.B.Fuller's reasons for putting wind power indoors was for easier maintenance.

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Please don't take me wrong or as offensive. But... Why so much people in this forum see Jordan Peterson (The right wing canadian psychologist who wants to socialize pu...y) as a semi God ?
Why does at least one person on this forum buy into the slander that's cast against JBP? The only thing you say that's true is that he's Canadian. Did you listen to Akira the Don? Try
  • TELL THE TRUTH OR AT LEAST DON'T LIE ft. Jordan Peterson
  • SET YOUR HOUSE IN PERFECT ORDER BEFORE YOU CRITICIZE THE WORLD ft. Jordan Peterson (JBPWAVE)
  • I Act As if God Exists ft. Jordan Peterson ( JBPWAVE )
  • DON'T BOTHER CHILDREN WHEN THEY'RE SKATEBOARDING ft. Jordan Peterson (JBPWAVE)

Other speakers that he does that thing with are Terence McKenna, Aloan Watts, Scott Adams, and Jocko Willink.

All Darc, think for yourself.

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I don't think any one understands what you're trying to say or where you are going with that.
I understood his point, immediately.

I will make it plain: the cost of using fossil fuels is incalculable.

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