The climate change consensus extends beyond climate scientists

[aerohead]

Originally Posted by oil pan 4

At what concentration does the IR absorbing green house gas effect of CO2 max out?

The believers don't care about carbon dioxide capture.
In 2012 anti pipe liners stopped the first commercially viable CO2 capture. The scheme was to take CO2 seperated from Colorado natural gas production, pipe it to through new Mexico to old oil wells in west texas.
The idea was to pump CO2 into depleted oil wells to drive off oil.
It would have taken at least 20lb of CO2 to drive off each gallon of oil at first, then more and more CO2 would be needed over time to get each gallon of oil.

But no the so called environmentalists got their way and the CO2 is just off gassed into the atmosphere.
This could have kicked off large scale CO2 capture programs.

Without my notes,CO2 on Venus constitutes around 90% of the atmosphere.The temperature is 844F,day and night,with continuous 200-mph winds.This would illustrate climate dynamics near the upper limit.

[aerohead]

Originally Posted by freebeard

I like it but you second and third points negate the first.

I'd prefer a market-based solution, but maybe using the existing mind control mechanism mainstream media to wean people off sports and gambling, and redirect the intent of the populace to saving their own sorry.... selves.

The oil companies have had since the 1950s to do something on their own.That hasn't worked out so well.
Short of nationalization,the rate schedule would perhaps be a means to allow the energy market to remain in private hands,but with some command and control catalyst operating.The government would play the heavy.
The oil companies could continue as they are,but energy could not be had as it we see today.
Malthus was promoting education.Tell the people how the cow eats the cabbage.Put the responsibility of the people into their own hands.Absolutely zero government intervention for the poor.
Private charity on a voluntary basis.Encourage thrift,savings while single,to set themselves up for marriage and children.Live below your means and save for a rainy day or unemployment.If you die,your family starves to death unless your neighbors want to rescue you.Poor people are worthless.'Blanks.'
Church of England,kinda brutal.

[redpoint5]

Originally Posted by aerohead

Malthus was promoting education.Tell the people how the cow eats the cabbage.Put the responsibility of the people into their own hands.Absolutely zero government intervention for the poor.
Private charity on a voluntary basis.Encourage thrift,savings while single,to set themselves up for marriage and children.Live below your means and save for a rainy day or unemployment.If you die,your family starves to death unless your neighbors want to rescue you.Poor people are worthless.'Blanks.'
Church of England,kinda brutal.

Everything said here sounds acceptable and preferable to me. Sounds exactly how my life has gone so far. Should my L5 S1 give me grief in the future, it should be the determination of the community if I live or not.

[All Darc]

A news was saying that in countries like Brazil, with not so huge car number like USA and with a lot of hydroelectric power, but verr large meat production, the meat industry polutes as much or even more than fossel fuels.

[oil pan 4]

Well it's not that hard if they dump the slaughter house blood and leftovers in a river.
In the US you can't do that.

[gone-ot]

The OIL COMPANIES (and railroad and telephone companies) were "broken-up" for a reason -- MONOPOLIES -- maybe it needs to be done again?

[RedDevil]

It is not about slaughter blood flowing into rivers (and if it were, I don't think that poses much of an environmental threat).
It is about cows farting greenhouse gasses. I thought that was a joke until I learned the numbers.

[oil pan 4]

The believers changed their minds about cows, now they are good for the grass lands.
If the rain forest needs to be clear cut and burned, not so much.

[RedDevil]

Originally Posted by oil pan 4

... believers ...

Cut it out man. Don't brand people that do not share your views.

[All Darc]

The study refered about air polution and global warming.
I don't have the study, since it was just mentioned in a web news.

As a vegetarin I'm not guilty.

Originally Posted by RedDevil

It is not about slaughter blood flowing into rivers (and if it were, I don't think that poses much of an environmental threat).
It is about cows farting greenhouse gasses. I thought that was a joke until I learned the numbers.