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Old 01-08-2019, 01:56 AM   #4441 (permalink)
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Old 01-08-2019, 04:20 AM   #4442 (permalink)
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RedDevil — You could start with Bucky Fuller.
What about https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Barnes_Wallis? I sometimes mix up the two of them. Even though Barnes Wallis wasn't much of a visionary environmentalist, not like Bucky Fuller at least.


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Debt vs GDP. Keep in mind personal debt was arbitrarily reduced after 2009 as people walked away from their responsibilities in default.
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Red Devil — Just remember the difference between 'geodetic' and 'geodesic'. The bomber has a diamond lattice, where a proper geodesic has triangular (or 'kagame') lattice.

The result is that any vertex is surrounded by a constraining hexagon, where the geodetic has four rhomuses (rhombi?).

See also Walther Bauersfeld. He built the first geodesic dome for his planetarium.
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Red Devil — Just remember the difference between 'geodetic' and 'geodesic'. The bomber has a diamond lattice, where a proper geodesic has triangular (or 'kagame') lattice.

The result is that any vertex is surrounded by a constraining hexagon, where the geodetic has four rhomuses (rhombi?).

See also Walther Bauersfeld. He built the first geodesic dome for his planetarium.
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Geodesic_(disambiguation)
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A geodesic is a generalization of the notion of a "straight line" to "curved spaces" where you cannot travel in a straight line.

In that sense, it is related to:
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Geodetic is an adjective meaning pertaining to geodesy, the science of measurement of the earth, as in, e.g., Geodetic datum, satellite geodesy, geodetic network, etc.

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Geodetic airframe
Geodetic effect


As you can imagine I used 'geodetic' as I wanted to stress that the airframe design pertains to geodesy.
And because Barnes Wallis's wiki page uses it as such.
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Debt vs GDP. Keep in mind personal debt was arbitrarily reduced after 2009 as people walked away from their responsibilities in default.
So the first graph is a combination of both public and private debt, and it includes mortgage debt? Seems about right. Public debt in the US is just above GDP (we collectively owe just over a whole year of productivity), and then personal debt is huge too.

Japan must be banking on being future rich to cover their liabilities. I saw a lot of medical students living "future rich" lives while in school. Burning through $100k per year in borrowed money didn't prevent vacation travel abroad.
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Old 01-09-2019, 12:07 PM   #4447 (permalink)
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Your assertion is that the US government is favoring coal to keep solar and wind out of the market. But this is interesting. USA federal subsidies for electrical production by source. This is from 2007 but I will try to find something newer. But shows that the USA was very early on trying to pay the way for wind and solar to take off. Solar and wind each recieved 15 times as much incentive as nuclear and 55 times as much as coal.
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"For subsidies related to electricity production, EIA data shows that solar energy was subsidized at $24.34 per megawatt hour and wind at $23.37 per megawatt hour for electricity generated in 2007. By contrast, coal received 44 cents, natural gas and petroleum received 25 cents, hydroelectric power 67 cents, and nuclear power $1.59 per megawatt hour."
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How about you rework the graph to represent the volume-sales-weighted subsidies?
What you've presented looks like Arthur Andersen-esque statistics.Phantasmagoric ledgerdemain.
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Here are subsidy charts from 2010 to 2016. Again, solar has been highly favored above all other production methods. My state also offers home solar a big incentive of 30% rebate in addition to the 25% federal tax refund and also forces the utility to buy your excess at the "meter runs backwards" rate for up to 125% of your usage. Which is a big loss for the electric utility provider to have to buy my intermittent electricity at $0.10/ kWH when the average wholesale price is $0.04 for a reliable, guaranteed supply. The USA has done a great job of pushing solar and wind over coal.
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Yeah, the graph is interesting and makes a point, but might not tell the whole story.

Wind and solar will continue producing power beyond the year in which it was subsidized. We'd need ongoing updates as to how much electricity was produced per dollar as it amortized over time.
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Nuclear needs some subsidies. Stop wasting it on solar.
Do you believe that they don't already enjoy a subsidy?

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