The climate change movement: July 28, 1995 to August 14, 2020 RIP

[aerohead]

Originally Posted by redneck

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As the rest of the world conforms to the Paris accord. China 🇨🇳 laughs and spits in the face of everyone...

China orders coal mines to increase production as power shortages bite

https://www.cnn.com/2021/10/08/busin...hnk/index.html




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As their industry is opening back up, they can't get enough natural gas, so they're turning to whatever they can. Supply / demand / price.
Adam Smithian.
If you're not consuming Chinese products, it won't directly affect you.
If you want a brand new $ 7,000 EV, then it'll be more of an issue.
And a single large 'tailpipe' at a coal-fired power plant is easier to 'clean' than 280,000,000 tailpipes currently traveling American roads.
The arithmetic is real easy.

[freebeard]

Originally Posted by oil pan 4

It wouldn't be the first time china's economy has imploded.

It implodes the best when it's self-inflicted. The burning of the 'treasure fleet' in the 15th Century. The Great Leap Forward in the last.

[oil pan 4]

Yep they are trying it again.
New paper out says 99.9% of climate change papers agree that man made climate change is real. So what they do is take nearly 8,000 papers, cherry pick that down to around 3,000 and declare it a consensus.
https://youtu.be/QQEMDLJkJIo

[aerohead]

That would be an exhausting assertion to vet.

[freebeard]

Originally Posted by oil pan 4

New paper out says 99.9% of climate change papers agree that man made climate change is real.

Let it be real. It's still inconsequential.

The Beaufort Gyre is loaded with fresh water like never before. When it cut loose, the Northward air circulation that warms the Eastern USofA will cease. Via S0: www.nature.com: Influence of the Atlantic meridional overturning circulation on the U.S. extreme cold weather

Abstract
Due to its large northward heat transport, the Atlantic meridional overturning circulation influences both weather and climate at the mid-latitude Northern Hemisphere. Here we use a state-of-the-art global weather/climate modeling system with high resolution (GFDL CM4C192) to quantify this influence focusing on the U.S. extreme cold weather during winter. We perform a control simulation and the water-hosing experiment to obtain two climate states with and without a vigorous Atlantic meridional overturning circulation. We find that in the control simulation with an overturning circulation, the U.S. east of the Rockies is a region characterized by intense north-south heat exchange in the atmosphere during winter. Without the northward heat transport by the overturning circulation in the hosing experiment, this channel of atmospheric heat exchange becomes even more active through the Bjerknes compensation mechanism. Over the U.S., extreme cold weather intensifies disproportionately compared with the mean climate response after the shutdown of the overturning circulation. Our results suggest that an active overturning circulation in the present-day climate likely makes the U.S. winter less harsh and extreme.

I wouldn't want to be East of the Rockies if/when....

edit:
Nobel Prize in Physics | Night Sky News October 2021

Two guys quantify anthropogenic warming and one brings the Chaos.

[redpoint5]

Originally Posted by freebeard

Let it be real. It's still inconsequential.

The Beaufort Gyre is loaded with fresh water like never before. When it cut loose, the Northward air circulation that warms the Eastern USofA will cease. Via S0: www.nature.com: Influence of the Atlantic meridional overturning circulation on the U.S. extreme cold weather

Two guys quantify anthropogenic warming and one brings the Chaos.

Spitballing here, but since global warming mostly raises low temperatures and has less impact on high temps, it would suggest low/high temperatures would narrow somewhat. Tornados and Hurricanes are created by low temperature and high temperature air rushing towards each other. If these differences in temperature were lessened, it seems the implication would be less frequent or less severe events.

[aerohead]

Project MOSAIC just concluded their 1-year stay in the Arctic, parked on an ice floe for a year. The 7-nation team collected 150-terra-bytes worth of data for the year, which will take a while to reduce.
The AMOC researchers may have used starting assumptions which may turn out to be orders of magnitude out of line with the in situ observations and measurements just captured.

[redpoint5]

I'll start wild panic now just so it's warmed up for full panic when the "alarming data" is released in news soundbites.

[aerohead]

Originally Posted by redpoint5

Spitballing here, but since global warming mostly raises low temperatures and has less impact on high temps, it would suggest low/high temperatures would narrow somewhat. Tornados and Hurricanes are created by low temperature and high temperature air rushing towards each other. If these differences in temperature were lessened, it seems the implication would be less frequent or less severe events.

The reporting I'm experiencing report global high temps increasing, as well as overnight low temperatures.
Polar regions are warming twice as fast as the rest of the globe.
In 2020, the Arctic set an all-time record heat wave.
And the most important aspect of the warming has to do latent heat. It's the increased water vapor which is feeding the rapidly-intensifying storms, and the heat-index is what's killing people right now.
Sure, there will be variable regional distributions of heat and moisture, but globally, the writing's on the wall.

[redpoint5]

If polar temperatures are increasing more than equatorial, that should reduce the number or severity of storms because it's that temperature differential that drives the air currents to converge.

A warmer polar climate would also increase moisture carrying capacity, which again should help to close the heat differential between equator and poles.

I'm pretty confident my hypothesis is flawed, but I haven't read the IPCC report yet on this subject.