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Not everyone just discovered this, as you apparently have.
Here's one of today's Featured Links:
Evidence from Galactic Cosmic Rays That the Sun Has Likely Entered A Secular Minimum in Solar Activity
F. Rahmanifard,A. P. Jordan,W. C. de Wet,N. A. Schwadron,J. K. Wilson,M. J. Owens,H. E. Spence,P. Riley
First published: 16 December 2021 https://doi.org/10.1029/2021SW002796This article has been accepted for publication and undergone full peer review but has not been through the copyediting, typesetting, pagination and proofreading process, which may lead to differences between this version and the Version of Record. Please cite this article as doi: 10.1029/2021SW002796
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The Sun isn't germane to the discussion.
We're talking about the geomagnetic field, during excursions or reversals.
And the heliosphere isn't the only magnetic field that shields the Earth from cosmic radiation.
You and others have never mentioned the IPMF.
When I bring it up, all of a sudden I'm the bad guy.
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12-20-2021, 10:36 PM
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It's hard to falsify that without a provided citation.
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The Sun isn't germane to the discussion.
We're talking about the geomagnetic field, during excursions or reversals.
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....aaand we're back to square one.
Wasn't there another thread on climate change that got locked/
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12-21-2021, 02:51 AM
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And the heliosphere isn't the only magnetic field that shields the Earth from cosmic radiation.
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I deduce that you are referring to the Magnetosphere. Youtube wanted me to see this:
It turns out that the Heliosphere isn't spherical, it's a rough crescent. The Sun's polar jets give it a spindle shape which is bent by the Galactic wave that travels along the arms. I would call the resulting turbulence a Vortex street, but this video calls it Plateau-Rayleigh Instability.
This affects how much Cosmic radiation is received.
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12-21-2021, 01:16 PM
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You have been proven flat out wrong on this and are in denial.
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12-22-2021, 11:53 AM
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It's hard to falsify that without a provided citation.
....aaand we're back to square one.
Wasn't there another thread on climate change that got locked/
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1) it's from the dozens of solar physicists who've published in the journals I read.
2) the Heliosphere is an artifact of the solar wind.
3) the IPMF is an artifact of interacting magnetic fields throughout the entire solar system. It's there, working, whether or not there's solar wind.
4) during the transition phase of an actual polar magnetic field reversal, magnetic flux WILL decline to 25% of its normal magnitude.
5) however, during this transition, the IPMF will still protect Earth from cosmic particle bombardment, such that, over the 800 Reversal events experienced on Earth over the past 160-million years, there's never been any evidence for extinction events or significantly-increased cosmic particle exposure at Earth's surface.
6) there are 'Superchron' events in which, the magnetosphere can go 70-million years without any change at all ( Permo- Carboniferous LRS ).
7) no one can predict an 'Excursion'
8) no one can predict a 'Reversal'
9) no one can predict the temporal shelf-life of an excursion or reversal
10) we need to pay attention to ' Secular Resonance' ( Milankovich / Earth-Mars orbital perturbations ) and its gravitational-tidal impact on Earth's interior to have a handle on magnetospheric dynamics.
11) these are dynamic events which occur on timescales of tens of thousands of years.
12) we average 4.3 reversals per 1-million years, with an average 'lifespan' of 232,558-years between events.
13) our last reversal was 780,000-years ago.
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You have been proven flat out wrong on this and are in denial.
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1) like belly-buttons, everyone has an opinion
2) you're entitled to yours
3) as you continue to learn about Earth science, you may come to realize the illogicality of your conclusion about my command of the facts.
4) it's true that, I don't always have my reference material at hand. Between briefcase and backpack, I'm carrying 37-pounds of 'books' with me, five city blocks ( each way ) every time I come to do EcoModder.
5) it's impossible to bring all of my archive to town with me.
6) perhaps, in the future, I'll withhold any comment, about any topic, until I can bring the appropriate materials.
7) maybe that will help remedy any issues about 'wrongness' or 'denial'
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I deduce that you are referring to the Magnetosphere. Youtube wanted me to see this:
It turns out that the Heliosphere isn't spherical, it's a rough crescent. The Sun's polar jets give it a spindle shape which is bent by the Galactic wave that travels along the arms. I would call the resulting turbulence a Vortex street, but this video calls it Plateau-Rayleigh Instability.
This affects how much Cosmic radiation is received.
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1) the sun 'rotates'
2) experienced within the context of the ecliptic, when you factor in solar rotation, Coriolis effect, Parker spirals, etc., the Sun's solar wind-induced Heliosphere, experienced at the Heliopause ( 100-AU out ), is essentially 'spherical', hence Heliosphere, for all intents and purposes.
3) the magnitude of the Heliosphere is increasing.
4) all, low-level cosmic radiation is suppressed at the Heliopause by the IPMF
5) cosmic particles which survive to Earth's surface, may be responsible for life.
6) secondary particles that we experience on the surface are created in the upper atmosphere
7) any 'charged' cosmic particles which made it past the Heliopause will be strongly influenced and shielded by local solar wind and magnetosphere
8) deflection of cosmic radiation varies with latitude
9) magnetic flux is 15% stronger at the poles
10) all lines of flux are stronger with altitude
11) relatively little cosmic radiation reaches Earth's surface
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Comparing the earth to a bar magnet is a ridiculous over simplification. Observations already show the earth's magnetic field weakenin as it moves.
Your ancient texts clearly ignore or predate observations form the last 30 years. Which is about right for you.
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Comparing the earth to a bar magnet is a ridiculous over simplification. Observations already show the earth's magnetic field weakenin as it moves.
Your ancient texts clearly ignore or predate observations form the last 30 years. Which is about right for you.
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1) for non-professionals, it's common practice to begin with the most fundamental constructs.
2) I don't know anyone who has daily, three-dimensional maps of the magnetosphere.
3) what is the time reference you're using for 'weakening': seconds ?, minutes ?, hours ?, days ?, weeks ?, months'?, years ?
4) what's the motion you're talking about? Polar rotation ? Longitude ? Latitude ? Daily position relative to the Sun ?
5) measured where ? in the ground ? On the ground ? At a mile altitude ? Ten miles ? 100 ? 1,000 ? 10,000 ?
6) have you personally been inside the planet, or out in space to take the readings?
7) why the presumption that I'm not current with the science?
8) the computer I'm sitting at cannot access the individuals or organizations whom routinely observe the phenomena ?
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I took the link that I provided to you: IPMF -- Imposto Provisório sobre a Movimentação Financeira+ 1 variant
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2) I don't know anyone who has daily, three-dimensional maps of the magnetosphere.
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Magnetic Reversal – Official Data, All in One Place
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6) have you personally been inside the planet, or out in space to take the readings?
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Now you are just trolling. No, have you?
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