The climate change movement: July 28, 1995 to August 14, 2020 RIP

[freebeard]

Originally Posted by redpoint5

The rollover controversy was due to severely underinflated tires.

Slate Magazine
The Dymaxion car: The true history of Buckminster Fuller's failed ...
Although Fuller implied that the crash irretrievably damaged the car's reputation, the word Dymaxion was absent from most news stories, and the positive coverage continued for a year and a half ...

An interesting story. Fuller's obfuscation, the wet street, it rolled three or four times, the single death could have been prevented if the vehicle had had a hard top.

The Ford Exploder is a production vehicle. The Dymaxion was the first of three pre-production prototypes.

[aerohead]

Originally Posted by freebeard

Good. That's a nonsensical stance.

You don't.


Cartesian coordinates are a mental prison.

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There's some kind of disconnect associated with my first two points:
1) My name is Philip Knox, not R. Buckminster Fuller, so obviously any notion that I know anything about my world is 'hubris.'
2) I've seen zero talk of embracing any of Fuller's ideas about housing, as related to disaster reconstruction or climate adaptation. Are you experiencing something out there that I'm missing?
I observed the construction of my neighbor, Bob Widmer's geodesic dome home.
I'd never seen the level of waste, in dimensional lumber, exterior sheathing materials, roofing, trim, drywall, and floor tile.
Equally challenging was thermal breaks, insulation, furniture, mattresses, wiring, windows, doors, skylights.

[freebeard]

I don't recognize that structural limits to education exist simply because an individual's name is what it is.

What, then, did you mean by this?

I observed the construction of my neighbor, Bob Widmer's geodesic dome home.
I'd never seen the level of waste, in dimensional lumber, exterior sheathing materials, roofing, trim, drywall, and floor tile.
Equally challenging was thermal breaks, insulation, furniture, mattresses, wiring, windows, doors, skylights.

Sounds like your neighbor didn't know what he was doing. All those issues have solutions. Dimensional materials get trimmed, but there's 70% as much to start. When my parents sheet rocked their dome, the scraps filled a five gallon bucket, a point of pride for them.

The current best solution is Geoships.

[oil pan 4]

[aerohead]

Originally Posted by freebeard

What, then, did you mean by this?


Sounds like your neighbor didn't know what he was doing. All those issues have solutions. Dimensional materials get trimmed, but there's 70% as much to start. When my parents sheet rocked their dome, the scraps filled a five gallon bucket, a point of pride for them.

The current best solution is Geoships.

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* At # 1836 ( permalink ) you're saying that it's 'hubris' on my part to put myself on the same level as Fuller.
I believe that my knowledge of some things exceeds that of Fuller, especially with respect to 'climate', climate-related structure losses, and probabilities that 'destroyed' buildings will NOT be replaced by geodesic structures or 'grain silos' as envisioned by Fuller.
* My experience observing my neighbor's geodesic dome is simply what it is.
GOOGLE EARTH probably has an aerial view of his home, along, and south of Bobcat Road, east of FM 2154, about 6-miles north of Denton's courthouse.

[freebeard]

I believe that my knowledge of some things exceeds that of Fuller, especially with respect to 'climate', climate-related structure losses, and probabilities that 'destroyed' buildings will NOT be replaced by geodesic structures or 'grain silos' as envisioned by Fuller.

R.B.Fuller dedicated himself to putting 'tools on the shelf' for humankind to take down when they're needed. The impediments are mortgage financing and zoning laws.

[G]rain silos' is dismissive. What he wanted was Housing as a Service (HaaS), in modern terms. The physical form was incidental. 'climate-related structure losses' was never a concern, under his 'skybreak bubble' domes.

First principles:

https://images.squarespace-cdn.com/c...Q/Picture3.jpg

[Piotrsko]

Interesting that the ad(?) Only mentions the upwind side having wind, not the ecomodder known drag bucket on the downwind side.

Traditional housing, back in the day, wasn't designed to withstand wind events, so of course it doesn't. Mostly, I see roofs blown off, mostly because they aren't really attached or anchored.

[freebeard]

Infographic(?) I question the use of 'absorb' and 'internal'.

Stagnation point: The hemisphere is small and consistent despite wind direction, a box rises and falls based on wind direction.

Leeward side is less turbulent based only on Cd.

Roofs are also lifted due to soffits and overhangs. Cape Cod style excepted.


https://www.researchgate.net/profile...House-1929.png

The Dymaxion rotating ventilator exploited the Bernoulli Effect (windsped maximum at the summit) and the Coanda Effect (in reverse) to move the air inside. Air pressure not needed could be exploited for power.

[aerohead]

Originally Posted by freebeard

R.B.Fuller dedicated himself to putting 'tools on the shelf' for humankind to take down when they're needed. The impediments are mortgage financing and zoning laws.

[G]rain silos' is dismissive. What he wanted was Housing as a Service (HaaS), in modern terms. The physical form was incidental. 'climate-related structure losses' was never a concern, under his 'skybreak bubble' domes.

First principles:

https://images.squarespace-cdn.com/c...Q/Picture3.jpg

I would argue that a 'dome' physical form is the GREATEST impediment to its adoption.
In 'housing' there's an analogue to the 'Law of the Paris Dressmaker' associated with automotive design.
'Americans' have never known that the 'performance' of a 'house' was directly associated with its 'look'.
Good luck reversing that reality on a 'national / global' scale!

[redpoint5]

The problem with the dome is that some of the interior space is unusable. There aren't any curved couches, my TV is flat, pictures are flat, windows are flat, framing comes in straight pieces... then the fact that I don't know a single person whose house blew away.

If our homes were at risk of blowing away, then we'd probably consider a design that is more resilient.

BTW, the design of eves is very efficient when engineered for the environment. They allow sunlight through windows in the winter months, and block sunlight in summer months. What percent of houses are constructed with this in mind? 1%?

We give no consideration to efficiency, only upfront cost. Then we buy massive furnaces and AC to overcome our poor design choices.