07-31-2012, 01:09 PM
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Converting the ignorant.
Don't know about you, but i'm astonished at the bloody mindedness of some people. I frequent (in uk) Landrover forums, and VW aircooled forums (for the bus). I try to tell them about hypermiling, and even link to this site, but nearly ALL wont, cant be bothered to look and learn, 'I DON'T GIVE A MONKEYS WHAT THE MPG IS....' type comment, when you are trying to enlighten them. I think it must be the ignorance of the unknown, that causes then to become defensive, almost derisory. Therefore I officially 'give up' trying to help people save money. YOU LOT on the other hand are all barking mad! Welcome to the real world. I like it here.
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07-31-2012, 01:24 PM
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You cant fix stupid.
There are plenty of people out there who believe a vehicles fuel economy can not be improved and that every one out there who has is running some kind of scam.
I figured with gas being over $6 per gallon there, more people would care about fuel milage.
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07-31-2012, 01:27 PM
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Welcome to 'our life'!!!!!!
I had an infiniti forum digress to 'them' posting a picture of my daughter and making nasty sexual comments about her!
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07-31-2012, 01:32 PM
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...the Bible says: "...the meek shall inherit the earth..."
...I believe it should say: "...the stupid have inherited the earth..."
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07-31-2012, 01:35 PM
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I recently took the passenger seat as an intern from work drove. Commenting that their driving sucked, I emailed a link to the 100 tips to improve mileage. The person read it and learned some things, so I expect their mpg to improve significantly.
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07-31-2012, 02:07 PM
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Well hey - everybody knows that it's impossible to exceed (heck, meet) the rated fuel economy of any car.
And if our silly modifications really worked, the automakers would already be doing this stuff to their vehicles.
My philosopy: don't bother trying to convert the ignorant. Save your energy for talking to the inquisitive minority that's genuinely interested in what you're up to.
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07-31-2012, 02:23 PM
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You need to distinguish between the ignorant (who don't know) and the stupid (who don't care). As the old saying goes, "Ignorance can be fixed, but stupid is forever."
The solution to ignorance is just education. As far as stupid goes, sometimes you just gotta respect people's right to be stupid.
And if you think you got it rough going on VW forums talking about fuel economy, try going on a diesel pickup forum! Most of those dimwits don't even think it's physically possible to get half the mileage I do.
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07-31-2012, 02:54 PM
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Quote:
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...the Bible says: "...the meek shall inherit the earth..."
...I believe it should say: "...the stupid have inherited the earth..."
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It certainly seems like the gubbmit (Frank's term) is heavily invested in subsidizing stupidity. The end result (my prediction) will be an increase in stupidity. Help people who are under water to stay in their house that they can not afford. The result will be many very run down homes that were built shoddy and not maintained properly. Ten years paying for what they should have walked away from in the first place.
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07-31-2012, 02:54 PM
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Originally Posted by Diesel_Dave
And if you think you got it rough going on VW forums talking about fuel economy, try going on a diesel pickup forum! Most of those dimwits don't even think it's physically possible to get half the mileage I do.
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I can ONLY imagine
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07-31-2012, 04:25 PM
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I find more success talking this up with younger people. I've had some good luck with the over-40 crowd too but a higher % success rate with people in their 30's and 40's. Speaking with them in person, that is.
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