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Old 05-28-2013, 03:00 PM   #1 (permalink)
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Could I use these instead of pizza pans?

American Metalcraft - 18915 15" Round Pizza Pan Separator

Somehow I do not like the look that is "all the rage" on here. I wonder if having straight edges would be good or bad. I imagine that they would not stick out as far as the edges, so I doubt that it would matter much.

These would cost $23.23 unless, of course, I actually wanted to mount them. I imagine that would cost extra.

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Check to see if a flat plate will fit your wheels before ordering.
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So practical, that Frank.

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Sure, go for it.
This is my current setup:

Some day I need to actually take pictures of my own car instead of finding ones on the Internet.

There are many pizza pan installations on here that I imagine that I could copy. How many of you think that I should tap the lugnuts?

I do not have many tools, a socket and wrench set, some screwdrivers, and now a circular saw, which I could not imagine using for this project. The Wiki says there has been an average of 3.56% improvement, although I believe that we have had far more than five members make this modification.

Come on, people! Post your numbers!

While my Ultragauge showed 31.5 for http://ecomodder.com/forum/showthrea...ock-25986.html, I usually get around twenty-seven. I actually went 450 miles on my last tank (14.778 gallons, 30.4 MPG), but that included 165 miles downhill from my parents' house, where I once got 40.4 MPG.

103.56% of 27 is 27.96.
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Check to see if a flat plate will fit your wheels before ordering.
Weird. I swear that "Latest Unread" keeps skipping ahead, but I think that I had already ordered them by the time that you posted this, and then I realized that I might have been able to find something similar at a restaurant supply store that I know, but hopefully I will have a better idea of how to mount them before they arrive.

I was looking at Car MPG Efficiency Modifications Main - EcoModder and it says:

Belly pan / under tray 3.48%
3 user average

Front air dam 4.73%
3 user average

Three users is a very small sample size, but I expected a belly pan to be better than an air dam!
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The lug nuts that I see on-line are around $2.50 each. I see four-packs for $9.50 and ten-packs for $50, which seems like bad math. I found twenty-packs, but they were locking lugnuts, which seems irrelevant and possibly problematic for this application.

Can I replace my lugnuts for less than fifty dollars? I do not want anything special if the first thing that I will do is punch a hole in them!
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Can you go to a wrecking yard? If so, then you can get them for a fraction of $50.
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Old 05-29-2013, 04:23 PM   #9 (permalink)
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I hope the discs do fit your wheels.

If the face of the wheel is higher at any point than the outer/bead, these completely flat discs aren't going to work very well. (Assumed you would have checked that before ordering!)
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Old 05-29-2013, 04:50 PM   #10 (permalink)
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No, I did not think of checking, but to rephrase what I put in my first post, how bad would it be if the edges do not touch the wheel as long as they are shallower than the sidewall?

I will check the junkyards. I thought of them, but the one that I went to for the power steering hose that I was never able to pull, none of the cars had wheels, but hopefully they kept at least a small fraction of the lugnuts from the hundreds or thousands of cars that they have.

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