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Old 09-29-2019, 05:02 PM   #21 (permalink)
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The baby was lock for many months, since birth, locked in dark until 1 year or so.

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Instant onset autism? Did his hair turn gray at the same time?

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Old 09-29-2019, 07:15 PM   #22 (permalink)
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How did you kewn about his brain sizes variations at early age?

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I have first and second hand experience with Aspergers, a form of autism.
Rather than being caused by a lack of sensorial stimulus, it is caused by the inability of the brain to effectively manage an overage of stimuli. My son is overly sensitive in sight and sound (probably much like both his parents - there's a reason we match) and just like other Aspergers he developed a larger than average brain in the first few months of his life, as other parts of the brain try to fill in for the failing of the frontal cortex to deal with the overload. So he had some idiot savant skills like a complete knowledge of the Greek alphabet and Japanese kana at 5 years old, and could accurately calculate the weekday of any given date (without being able to explain how). Also typically, within a year these skills got irretrievably lost... But he has enough other things to make up for it.
His intelligence is like a very sharp tool without a proper handle. In a way he's not bad, it is just that the world around him is clueless how to deal with him. It isn't his fault?
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How did you kewn about his brain sizes variations at early age?
I read about research in cranial size and brain activity per area in children from prebirth until a couple of years, and larger than average brain size and Aspergers are strongly correlated.

My son was born 1 month prematurely by caesarian section and kept in the hospital nursery for a week. My wife's recovery was slow, so I spent a lot of time in the nursery with my son as she couldn't. It was obvious that my son responded to people; whenever he noticed somebody arriving he turned and stared them right in the face; for minutes on end first time, but just one or two seconds the second time round. He recognized the nurses, all 20 of them. Monday morning brought a new batch, he stared a lot.

Then after 5 days or so sister Dorothy walked in, the first person with a dark complexion my son saw. His eyes went wide open, as his mouth, and his arms started to shake. He was clearly excited. He learned something new.

Some people say newborns don't recognize faces etc. Well, my son did; a sharp observer, tiny as he was. But all the power went to analyzing and sorting, none to social skills.
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Do you trust the psychiatric science about what would be the best (in their view) way to raise/treat/educate you son?

After all they did a lot of sh... along history... Today they heavily opose and blame things created by themselves in the past.

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Do yuou trust the psychiatric science about what would be the best (in their view) way to raise/treat/educate you son?

After all they did a lot of sh... along history... Today they heavily opose and blame things created by themselves in the past.
We're quite selective about who helps us. We have ended the involvement of an autism care worker because it didn't work. But we have alternatives.

Also, my son is not a very heavy case, and increasingly able to find solutions for the problems he encounters by himself. We hope/expect he'll attend a regular high school next year. He's already smart enough to attend the highest level (VWO meaning preparatory scientific education, e.g. leading up to university level) but he doubled the last primary grade to allow him to hone his social skills.
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Some skills that gone lost... Interesting... Maybe it's a indicator that the developement of other brain structures tends to diminsh the functionality of the demand of some brains structures.
Sometimes I suspect human brain, as it demands a lot of energy (in relative terms) it's like a guy with difficult to pay his bills for home, and decides to cut some of electric energy usage, to manage what is essential and what need to be shut off.

I think we could expand intelligence if there was a way to make wider the window of brain sensibility to deap learning. For example IQ base for intelligence it's very important in terms of stimulus up to 7 years old, and then the efforts after this age are usually much less significative. For music there is something similar to some skills for frequency (notes) identification.
I read somewhere that a new drug to treat hyperactivity was able to, in some people, make the brain "get open again" to develop new basic skills for music, for things like develop perfect pitch.

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I read somewhere that a new drug to treat hyperactivity was able to, in some people, make the brain "get open again"...
Anything is possible. I started on a new medication as a diuretic. I've had back problems since I fell off a loading dock at age ~20. Always migrating to upper, middle or lower back at random. I noticed a week later that the back aches are gone.
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Some people say newborns don't recognize faces etc. Well, my son did; a sharp observer, tiny as he was. But all the power went to analyzing and sorting, none to social skills.
It isn't linear, abilities are lost. Pattern matching for one. https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Pattern_recognition_(psychology)

No supporting link found, but I was defeated regularly in a computer game by one five-year-old.

Childhood amnesia for another. https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Childhood_amnesia

I'd combine Fuller's assertion that an individual acquires half their total knowledge by the age of four, and Timothy Leary's concept of the four terrestrial brain circuits.
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Some skills that gone lost... Interesting... Maybe it's a indicator that the developement of other brain structures tends to diminsh the functionality of the demand of some brains structures.
Sometimes I suspect human brain, as it demands a lot of energy (in relative terms) it's like a guy with difficult to pay his bills for home, and decides to cut some of electric energy usage, to manage what is essential and what need to be shut off.
People excel in the things that interest them. If social interaction isn't that interesting, then it doesn't get developed as well as the things that are interesting.

Learning is the process of figuring out what can be ignored, because most everything is irrelevant. A child doesn't know what is irrelevant, so they are interested and creative until they learn what can be ignored.
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A child doesn't know what is irrelevant.....until they learn what can be ignored.
I was mtn. bicycling on a logging road, when I noticed a bobcat in the woods, which bounced onto the road, 10 yards in front of me. Quartering away, it leisurely crossed the road & back into the woods. Beautiful female cat, which gave me time to stop & watch it with binoculars. Long tufted ears, long legs, big wide furry feet. At no time did its eyes watch me. It ignored me. I have noticed this characteristic in other wildlife.

Lots of people think, either wildlife will watch, attack or run away from people. Most often, I think wildlife ignore humans ('cept fer deer, elk, etc. in huntin' season). Ignoring data can often lead to an animal's death.

Wild animals, who ignore people are like AGW deniers. AGW deniers ignore data, till they are dead.

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I was mtn. bicycling on a logging road, when I noticed a bobcat in the woods, which bounced onto the road, 10 yards in front of me. Quartering away, it leisurely crossed the road & into the woods. Beautiful female cat, which gave me time to stop & watch it with binoculars. Long tufted ears, long legs, big wide furry feet. At no time did its eyes watch me. It ignored me. I have noticed this characteristic in other wildlife.
Lots of people think, either wildlife will watch, attack or run away from people. Most often, I think wildlife ignore humans ('cept fer deer, elk, etc. in huntin' season). Ignoring data can often lead to an animal's death. Wild animals, who ignore people are like AGW deniers. AGW deniers ignore data, till they are dead.
And AGW proponents ignore mountains of falsified data and failed predictions. Fortunately this won't actually cause you harm, just ridicule.

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