Did big sugar have a "tobacco moment?"

[All Darc]

Only a full medical examination with many test can tell.
Indeed there are people who ate a lot of fat and don't get high collesterol levels. People somewhat obese with low presure or low triglicerides...

Genetics have a good influence too.
But I belive someone who eat bad but have no bad exams results would live even more if they eat health.

If our ancestors had made some voluntary eugenics, to reduce diceases, reduce antisocial behavior, and increase IQ and imunity... Would we better today ?

Originally Posted by Xist

Do Jordan's doctors agree that he is in perfect health? I have known many people who said "Just because I am a little overweight doesn't mean that I am unhealthy! Don't judge me!" Then there was the medic that said "Just because you are skinny doesn't mean you are healthy!"

You know, I miss being skinny. I do not miss that medic, though!

[redpoint5]

Originally Posted by Xist

Do Jordan's doctors agree that he is in perfect health? I have known many people who said "Just because I am a little overweight doesn't mean that I am unhealthy! Don't judge me!" Then there was the medic that said "Just because you are skinny doesn't mean you are healthy!"

Peterson doesn't like to talk much about his diet because that's not his area of expertise, and readily admits that there is a good chance it wouldn't work well for others. So, he hasn't shared what his doctors said, but generally doctors say if you feel good, then you are good. After all, sick people are those who complain, and well people are those that don't (from the perspective of a doctor).

If you want to know if someone is healthy, you first have to ask "for what?". A healthy guard in the NFL is different than a healthy ballerina, which is different than a marathon runner...

If you simply consider length of life to be the determining factor of health, then a calorie restricted diet is "healthy". Personally, I'd rather chop 5 years off of the end and not be a wimp my whole life.

I'm very ignorant in the area of diet, but there has been controversy lately concerning heart health. It seems avoiding fat is not as important as originally thought with regards to heart health.

My veterinarian friend sometimes goes on an all fat diet to lean out and maintain energy levels throughout the day, and he wouldn't do it if he thought it posed a health risk.

Originally Posted by All Darc

If our ancestors had made some voluntary eugenics, to reduce diceases, reduce antisocial behavior, and increase IQ and imunity... Would we better today ?

We are better today because our ancestors always practiced eugenics. Simply finding one person more attractive than another is an example of eugenics in action. The genes that propagate into the future don't do so by chance, but by selection.

[cRiPpLe_rOoStEr]

Even though I do believe people in general should be more aware of their carbohydrates intake and eventual health concerns, and possibly the food industry would want to decrease its costs using less sweeteners, I am unfavorable to any so-called "sugar tax".

[Xist]

Fried food is unhealthy, too. When are they taxing that?

[aerohead]

Originally Posted by Xist

Also, when did "Moment" start meaning anything besides "An instant" or a measure of the tendency to cause a body to rotate about a specific point or axis?

I ran across this five year-old article saying that sugar was so bad people were trying to tax it: Big Sugar is having its tobacco moment

With comments like "Sugar addiction is; Of the same concern, as tobacco, alcohol, drugs, both legal and illegal."

I enabled over 900 addicts tonight. What about you guys?

Quick search: "The sugar tax came into force on April 6, 2018, after hopes of a U-turn by PM Theresa May were dashed."

Sounds like this was in that British place.

"The tax is estimated to raise around £520 million which will be used to fund sports in primary schools."

Is that how you fight childhood obesity? I thought it was guilt!

Opera says that is the equivalent of $662 Million in real money.

"A 1.75ml bottle of coke has increased from roughly £1.25 to £1.49." So, 20%!

"Pure fruit juice has been exempted from the tax"

Cue debate on the merits of fruit juice without added ingredients!

"Drinks with a high milk content are exempt due to their calcium content."

So, energy drinks will all be dairy now. Nice.

"Mexico introduced a 10 per cent tax on sugary drinks in 2014 and saw a 12 per cent reduction over the first year."

"Hungary brought in a tax on the drinks companies and saw a 40 per cent decrease in the amount of sugar in the products."

"Chocolate and sweets are already included in Public Health England’s programme aiming for a 20 per cent reduction in sugar by 2020."

So... did they tax bags of sugar? Did the sugar industry just become DIY?

I think it was in 1977,that a US Senate Committee for US dietary recommendations issued a report,basically attacking the standard American diet as unhealthy.
They were immediately attacked by food industry attorneys,forced to redact the information from their report,then were further rewarded,by having the committee dissolved.
Human evolution has us craving sugar,salt,and fat.It's so rare in nature,that paleo man could eat all they wanted,because you could hardly find any of it in nature.
With processed food,it can be intentionally full of it.
Obesity,type-2 diabetes,hardenining of the arteries,high blood pressure,enlarged hearts,heart attack,stroke,and erectile disfunction are a few of it's consequences.
There are $billions to be made off these diet-related symptoms and nothing to be made off of health.
A peek at 'How not to Die',by Dr.Michael Gregor will give insight into the 'whys' of sugar,fat,and salt,and why your cardiac surgeon is probably a vegan.

[aerohead]

Originally Posted by ASV

Yeah I am going to have to disagree on food not having second hand effects
my counter point being the pickled egg and cabbage
Prrrt ��

almost all the food problems can be solved by exorcise
the exception being a lack

Some clinicians would point to randomized,placebo-controlled,peer-reviewed,large cohort research studies,which found counter-evidence to the exercise argument.
Some things,the body just cannot shrug off.

[aerohead]

Originally Posted by Xist

Do Jordan's doctors agree that he is in perfect health? I have known many people who said "Just because I am a little overweight doesn't mean that I am unhealthy! Don't judge me!" Then there was the medic that said "Just because you are skinny doesn't mean you are healthy!"

You know, I miss being skinny. I do not miss that medic, though!

Those who appear 'healthy' on the outside can harbor subcutaneous fat,surrounding their organs which can easily shorten their lives.
And dozens of episodes of Dr.G Medical Examiner,depict,otherwise 'healthy' individuals who just dropped dead one day,with no prior symptoms,due to atherosclerosis,and 80-90% arterial blockage.The only symptom was death,which was only diagnosed at autopsy.
So go ahead and enjoy that deep-fried butter at the county fair.

[All Darc]

Natural sellection was poorly, not effective on reduce parksinson, alzeheimer and artheriosclerosis... All because the danger of primitive environment and need of strength to hunt, predator and infections, would kill people before these diseases arrive or get relevant.

[cRiPpLe_rOoStEr]

Originally Posted by Xist

Fried food is unhealthy, too. When are they taxing that?

I hope they never do that. Life would suck without some acarajé once in a while...

[Xist]

Originally Posted by aerohead

So go ahead and enjoy that deep-fried butter at the county fair.

Aerohead wants me to die!

Happy to disappoint you, but I do not eat anything of the sort.