Did big sugar have a "tobacco moment?"

[RedDevil]

Originally Posted by Old Tele man

PTSD = Put That Stuff Down?

Prone To Seduce Damsels...

[All Darc]

I heard more than once that cheap chocolate was bad because it have too little cocoa seeds amounts and much sugar, and the pricer brands had more cocoa. But on supermarket I find cocoa seed in powder and it's not expensive, and you can make chocolate truffle (condensed milk cooked with chocolate) with it and get very good like if you had used good chocolate.

Originally Posted by jamesqf

And it's better without a lot of sugar. After getting addicted used to dark chocolate, I forget how little actual chocolate most American "chocolate" contains - until it comes time to deal with the leftover trick-or-treat stuff.

What a racism...
White chocolate it's worse from health than blacxk chocolate.

Dark chocolate have properties good to humor, and can even release depression.

Originally Posted by Xist

Tastebuds: "Sir, step away from the dark chocolate!"

[niky]

I actually like white chocolate. Which is to say, I like the flavorless cocoa fat they mix with vanilla and sugar to make "white chocolate".

Which is to say I like fat.

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Dark chocolate is heavenly. Get a good semi-sweetened bar and it's like eating coffee.

The only thing better is dark chocolate with ground coffee bean filling.

Originally Posted by All Darc

Don't tell me you eat chocolate with bacon...

That might not be a bad idea.

Maybe bacon sprinkles, so it won't be so oily.

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Salt really intensifies flavor. My kids love the chocolate brownies and chocolate chip cookies my wife makes. Heavy on the chocolate, modest on sugar, with a liberal sprinkling of rock salt to give it some bite and to enhance the flavor of the chocolate. I even catch them sneaking an extra pinch of salt from the jar to put on their cookies from time to time.

[Xist]

There are places that sell chocolate-covered bacon. I made it myself twice and it did not look great, but bacon and chocolate went together well enough.

It did not look great, though.

[All Darc]

Difficult to imagine how both taste together.

But the look, googling a bit, it's this :

Originally Posted by Xist

There are places that sell chocolate-covered bacon. I made it myself twice and it did not look great, but bacon and chocolate went together well enough.

It did not look great, though.

[jamesqf]

Originally Posted by All Darc

What a racism...
White chocolate it's worse from health than blacxk chocolate.

Probably dating myself, but

I don't eat white flour, white sugar makes you rot,
Oh, white could be beautiful but mostly it's not.

(Melanie Safka)

I don't really understand why people seem to go for white food. Hardly ever tastes as good as its colored equivalent.

[ASV]

Originally Posted by All Darc

Suggar in high concentration and amount, Monosodium glutamate , processed food with a lot of flavor enhancers... All thse can create people addicted to food.

My dentist was very obese, once, he told me her nanny gave milk with 2 large spoons of sugar everytime he cried loud. He lost weigh using prescribed drugs to reduce hungry and apetitte. Later he developed heart problems, and I suspect was related with the drugs. But he died in a car crash when his girfriend drove like crazy on the road.

SUgar on direct health can be bad in large amount, and especially if refined, but I saw a article about moderate amounts be good to very old people, something about the mind, brain needing sugar.

In terms of adiction it can be horricle in high concentration and huge amounts.

But food have no such thing as a "second hand hazard".

Yeah I am going to have to disagree on food not having second hand effects
my counter point being the pickled egg and cabbage
Prrrt ��

almost all the food problems can be solved by exorcise
the exception being a lack

[redpoint5]

Originally Posted by ASV

almost all the food problems can be solved by exorcise
the exception being a lack

It's extremely difficult to solve an overweight problem with exercise alone. So few calories are burned through exercise. Much easier to not put the excess energy into the body in the first place.

If someone wants to lose weight or become leaner, it's going to be something like 90% diet, and 10% exercise.

That said, I can be relatively healthy on just about any type of food. I could eat nothing but McDonalds for every meal and with exercise, be in great physical shape. If I wanted to gain weight/muscle, I'd simply increase the portion sizes, and if I wanted to lean out, I'd reduce portion sizes.

People respond differently to foods though. Jordan Peterson says he's mostly solved physical and mental issues by maintaining a strict beef diet. That's probably a terrible diet for many (most?) people, but it works for him. My point is you've got to experiment to see what works well for you. His main takeaway point is that with so many foods that we consume, pinpointing what agrees and what does not agree with our body is difficult/impossible because there are too many variables. Instead cut out as many variables as possible, experimenting with a few foods and slowly add complexity/variety until you identify stuff that doesn't agree.

[Xist]

Do Jordan's doctors agree that he is in perfect health? I have known many people who said "Just because I am a little overweight doesn't mean that I am unhealthy! Don't judge me!" Then there was the medic that said "Just because you are skinny doesn't mean you are healthy!"

You know, I miss being skinny. I do not miss that medic, though!

[All Darc]

I once designed a ecollogic fuel car in school, in my teens.
There was a classmate acused of fart too much, and I drawned a car with a cabbage source near the driver, and the driver over a sort of toilet seater, eating cabbage, and the resulting biometane would be captured by seat collector and sent to a biomethane engine.

That's what I cal self drive (moved)...

Originally Posted by ASV

Yeah I am going to have to disagree on food not having second hand effects
my counter point being the pickled egg and cabbage
Prrrt ��

almost all the food problems can be solved by exorcise
the exception being a lack