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Man, why would the cops care if you are doing the speed limit? Maybe they know if this catches on it cuts into their ability for writing speeding tickets- revenue goes down. They are part of the problem for not being consistent in enforcing the law.
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It's more a matter of audition - to quote someone from this forum:
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...auditor by profession... when you are variant from the "norm", you become suspect. As an auditor, my job is to investigate all things suspect.
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Name kept secret and quote isn't exact wording for that person's sake.
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04-16-2009, 02:03 PM
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I prefer this version:
How to not get your *ss kicked by the police
(Note: video is not workplace or child friendly)
Maybe that's just because I'm a black guy living in Oakland CA (where in the past year there has been major ongoing issues with police). I wish everyone in my community could see this...
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Man, why would the cops care if you are doing the speed limit?
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I was actually going under the limit, but the point was, if you are the only one out of thousands of people, they assume something must be wrong - either there is a problem with the car, or the driver is intoxicated.
If it was about revenue, they could pull over every single car going over the limit.
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A few months ago I returned home just as my neighbor pulled into his driveway. It was cold (around freezing) with some rain and sleet, and he yells to me: You rode your bike? In this weather?!?
So the other day we both returned home at the same time again, only now the weather is warm, sunny, with no wind. And I yell to him: You took the car? In this weather?!?
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04-16-2009, 02:07 PM
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It's more a matter of audition - to quote someone from this forum:
Name kept secret and quote isn't exact wording for that person's sake.
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I see your point. But, they aren't supposed to be auditors. Their job is to enforce existing laws. Compliance should trigger "no investigation required".
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04-16-2009, 02:13 PM
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Everyone is an auditor. The need for knowledge and information makes you want to investigate anything you consider not "normal". Is it rightly so that a cop would find reason to investigate someone driving slowly without obvious cause, as a drunk person or a faulty vehicle is more dangerous than someone exceeding the speed limit in a controlled fashion, following the speed of surrounding traffic.
Enforcing the law is (and always has been) a matter of audition. This ain't Pokemon - you can't catch 'em all.
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04-16-2009, 02:22 PM
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All true enough, but if they/we were serious about law, there is a lot that could be done.
For one thing, they could catch some, and make examples of them.
The RIAA hasn't stopped file sharing, but they have made it very clear that it is actually illegal, and a lot of people are discouraged from file sharing as a result.
The cops could be expected to follow the law - unless they are code 2 (lights on) or 3 (sirens), they are breaking the law by speeding.
Car manufacturers could easily govern all cars to 80mph (the highest US speed limit, in Texas), and legislation could require them to do so.
Encouraging people to break some laws undermines law as a whole - not to mention all the wasted fuel and lives lost.
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A few months ago I returned home just as my neighbor pulled into his driveway. It was cold (around freezing) with some rain and sleet, and he yells to me: You rode your bike? In this weather?!?
So the other day we both returned home at the same time again, only now the weather is warm, sunny, with no wind. And I yell to him: You took the car? In this weather?!?
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04-16-2009, 02:23 PM
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Jacob - Agreed.
But what about the cops who C2 and C3 just to pass obstructions? (red lights, stop signs, etc.)
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04-16-2009, 02:25 PM
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Unless you carry around a police scanner, its kind of hard to know if they are actually on a call or not.
Sure, some cops are corrupt. I'm not talking perfect world, just better.
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Originally Posted by Piwoslaw
A few months ago I returned home just as my neighbor pulled into his driveway. It was cold (around freezing) with some rain and sleet, and he yells to me: You rode your bike? In this weather?!?
So the other day we both returned home at the same time again, only now the weather is warm, sunny, with no wind. And I yell to him: You took the car? In this weather?!?
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04-16-2009, 02:26 PM
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To best that - take the human out of the equation. You can catch speeders (and it's proven to be effective) with speed cameras.
(You might ticket the wrong person) - Face someone with a $300 speeding ticket and the chance of losing their license, and they'll remember who was driving their car REALLY quick-like.
(Too many tickets would be issued through the mail, courts would be clogged) - Awesome - revenue for the state as a result of idiots speeding means lower taxes for everyone. Most court cases wouldn't even happen, since speeders usually aren't going to contest the tickets. They'll get the hint eventually.
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Lots of cops are corrupt (as in, many of them break the law without even knowing it.)
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Fixed!
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04-16-2009, 02:29 PM
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Fantastic idea!
Even better than mandatory governors, because of the revenue, and adjustability to the specific road.
Now all we need do is get at least one hypermiler elected to state or federal government, cause that'd never fly as a petition initiative.
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Originally Posted by Piwoslaw
A few months ago I returned home just as my neighbor pulled into his driveway. It was cold (around freezing) with some rain and sleet, and he yells to me: You rode your bike? In this weather?!?
So the other day we both returned home at the same time again, only now the weather is warm, sunny, with no wind. And I yell to him: You took the car? In this weather?!?
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