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Old 11-17-2015, 04:40 PM   #311 (permalink)
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Old 11-17-2015, 04:42 PM   #312 (permalink)
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daily dirver since 2010 actualy i do not drive it every day because i lost my job in august
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Old 11-25-2015, 01:41 AM   #313 (permalink)
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I installed a echo RS cluster







the installation was not plug and play. the 2 connector are the same but all the wires dont go at the same place. to not touch my own harness i made a male/female extension from a cluster and harness from a echo at the scrapyard.



all the lightbulb on the cluster are led exept the ones for the flashers and 3 to light the gas and odo area because the screen is like a calculator screen and it need light in order to see it at night
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MPG=1 TIME=0
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Old 01-16-2016, 10:53 PM   #314 (permalink)
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What are the raw number increases? Since MPG is not linear (it is a curve) these numbers mean nothing without the proper context.

Gaining 2.15% MPG at 50 MPG means you moved up to 51.075, a savings of 0.042 gallons (5.376 ounces) over 100 miles.

Gaining 2.15% at 10 MPG means you moved up to 10.215 MPG, a savings of
0.21 gallons (26.88 ounces) over 100 miles.
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Old 01-18-2016, 08:31 PM   #315 (permalink)
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What are the raw number increases? Since MPG is not linear (it is a curve) these numbers mean nothing without the proper context.

Gaining 2.15% MPG at 50 MPG means you moved up to 51.075, a savings of 0.042 gallons (5.376 ounces) over 100 miles.

Gaining 2.15% at 10 MPG means you moved up to 10.215 MPG, a savings of
0.21 gallons (26.88 ounces) over 100 miles.
the data for the wheelcovers are here


(Results Of the Wheel Covers (Pizza Pans) Tests! :

Today we have tested the wheel covers to prove their efficacity and their FE with an A-B-A test.

Here are the Results :
11°C (51,8°F) / Speed : 50 MPH (80 Km/H) / 06 October 2011 / Good Conditions in general.

A = With the Wheel Smooth Covers (Pizza Pans)
B = Without the Wheel Smooth Covers (Pizza Pans)

In MPG (US) :
|-------|--A---|--B---|--A---|
Run # 1 |-61.2-|-59.5-|-62.4-|
|-------|---------------------|
Run # 2 |-57.2-|-57.1-|-57.6-|
|-------|---------------------|

Results :

Run # 1 Combined A = 61.8 MPG (US) (3.81 L/100Km)
Run # 1 Result of B = 59.5 MPG (US) (3.95 L/100Km)
Run # 2 Combined A = 57.4 MPG (US) (4.1 L/100Km)
Run # 2 Result of B = 57.1 MPG (US) (4.12 L/100Km)

Difference of 2.3 MPG (US) With the Run # 1.
Difference of 0.3 MPG (US) With the Run # 2

Final Result of the Testing of the Wheel Covers (Pizza Pans) :

We calculated a 2.15% gain in MPG (US) with the Wheel Covers. Yay!^^)



this is on page 1

and i lost the data for the whiper cover test but i remember that I saw a 1.5%gain. and the speed for all my tests is 50mph
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MPG=1 TIME=0
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Old 01-18-2016, 10:23 PM   #316 (permalink)
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3.8% increase in fuel economy from the pizza pans. Nice.
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Old 02-03-2016, 12:06 AM   #317 (permalink)
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ethanol

i just discovered by making a basic test that the gas i was using have ethanol in it.

you just have to put water in gas and shake it for 1 min and if there is ethanol the water will become blurred and with no ethanol the water with stay kind of clear.

the gas i tested was shell v-power and petro-canada 94octane



i am swithing to shell v-power because i disapprouve the use of ethanol in gas
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MPG=1 TIME=0
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Old 02-03-2016, 01:35 PM   #318 (permalink)
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separation in tanks

I looked up ethanol sucks, and found this comment.

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for the dis-believers, fill a quart jar with [ethanol] and set it on a shelf. After about a week you will be able to see the gasoline, the [ethanol] and the water sitting in three separate layers. Now think about all that stuff sitting in those thousand gallon tanks at the gas stations and what gets pumped in your tank.
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Old 08-20-2016, 03:46 PM   #319 (permalink)
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today I got my kill switch done







Would you mind giving a little more detail on where you wired this in? If I missed it in the thread, just point me to the spot. What wire are you interrupting? Do you have any trouble with trowing codes now? Sorry if you have already answered these questions before.
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Old 08-21-2016, 05:18 PM   #320 (permalink)
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i interrupt the black wire with a violet strip behind the glovebox on the left side
and i never had any codes related to that. here is a wiring diagram



the kill switch must be normaly open

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Best Commute Trip avg (73.8 Km ): 2.33 LHK (101 MPG (US) )
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MPG=1 TIME=0
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