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Old 04-01-2008, 10:35 AM   #21 (permalink)
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tas, I love reading posts like yours. I agree wholeheartedly, of course - proper instrumentation a game changer for a motivated driver.

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Old 04-01-2008, 10:49 PM   #22 (permalink)
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What makes the MID better than the SG?
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Old 04-01-2008, 10:52 PM   #23 (permalink)
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The SG is a better tool, hands down. More functions, less expensive.

The MID's advantage is that it can be used on non-OBD2 equipped vehicles. The SG only works on OBD2.

Theoretically the MID can be installed in any vehicle with a VSS (Vehicle Speed Sensor) and fuel injection. It was initially developed to give Prius owners the ability to measure MPG beyond the 99.9 mpg limit of the OEM display (and a few other measurements not on that display).
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Old 04-04-2008, 09:05 PM   #24 (permalink)
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Maiden voyage tonight with a just installed SG, easy to hook up. Got to 40.85 mpg last tank without one, want to see what I can do past that.

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where did you get the sg and is it the x guage version (expandable)?

how much was it?

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I got it from Amozon.com for 159.95 no shipping. As to wether it's the Xgauge I don't know but the instructions refer to the Xgauge. I'm techno challenged with the info it's giving me now. But it's info overload and I'm trying to sort it out. I got a trip reading last night of 38.8 and have been getting about 40.8 but it still is not updated with first fill up of tank info which I understand can change the math. That will take a full cycle from fill up to fill up. I love the immediate update and how a slight change in pedal pressure will change mpg.

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I just found a repuatable person on www.xr-underground.com selling them new for

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155.55 Shipped 3-Day Priority to your door for a brand new scangauge.

These are only 1 month old and change directly from scangauge.

Yes they have the X-Gauge feature.
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Old 04-06-2008, 08:45 AM   #29 (permalink)
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1) He's not really into the FE game any more, but
What, did he stop driving? Sorry, I just can't see ever getting out of the FE game, since I had to bust my butt to earn this money and don't see much point in setting any more of it on fire than absolutely necessary.
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Yes, it has the Xgauge feature, but there is nothing on the box, but in the instuctions it tells how to access it and it worked on mine. What I like about SG is the direct feed back and its ability to signal changes in performance. The night before last, the first night I used it over the course, it gave me a trip of 38.8. mpg The next day I gave the Aveo its first oil change using Mobil 1 full syn. Then drove the exact same circuit, same temp, slightly better real time numbers and 40.3 mpg outcome. Still a lot to learn, but better than the old, fill the tank, drive it empty, fill the tank, do the math routine. It is particularly interesting to watch the speed and rpms effect on the MPG and the subtle throttle changes you can make without even being aware of it if you were not watching the numbers or the inclines and declines in the road that I didn't know where there until watched close up and personal.


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