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Old 04-24-2015, 10:08 AM   #21 (permalink)
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I'm wondering what will happen in 20 or 30 years if you are required to bring your car to the dealership for service. I know if I had driven my Rabbit back to a dealership the mechanics wouldn't know mechanical fuel injection, and I doubt the guys at a Ford dealership would be happy to tune my carb. Technology just keeps getting more complicated and more obsolete, so what will the dealer say when you drive your 2017 Focus to the dealership in 2031?

On a side note, I'm concerned at how many here value fuel economy over total emissions.

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Old 04-24-2015, 10:34 AM   #22 (permalink)
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I value total emissions.

Emissions per mile.
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Manual neutral engine off.100% @MPG <----- Fun Fact.
Manual 1:1 gear ratio .......98%
CVT belt ............................88%
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I value total emissions.

Emissions per mile.
Now that would improve fuel economy of US vehicles.
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VW has had real tight control of their software.
Now I am learning that you can just swap ECUs like you could on older domestic vehicles.
You need the super secret code unlocker to make an ECU work.
The only people who have this, the dealer and the specialized ECU tuner guys.
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Why can't we edit Windows source code?
Because its a mess and we would feck it up more.




Cars are very complex apparently

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Current Microsoft OS is fundamentally DOS+GUI(s)+KitchenSink code(s).

They (MS) have a habit of simply "coding around" existing BAD/BUGGY code rather than creating "new" GOOD code.
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Current Microsoft OS is fundamentally DOS+GUI(s)+KitchenSink code(s).

They (MS) have a habit of simply "coding around" existing BAD/BUGGY code rather than creating "new" GOOD code.
You are out of date. This hasn't been the case since XP. You can install windows 2012 without a GUI if you like hair shirts a lot
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I am still using XP, Vista and Win7...32 bits is good enuf for me.
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Why can't we edit Windows source code?
Because its a mess and we would feck it up more.
QFT

According to Source lines of code - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia Mac OSX 10.4 has 86 million lines of source code. Windows XP has 45 million.
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SLOC is particularly ineffective at comparing programs written in different languages unless adjustment factors are applied to normalize languages. Various computer languages balance brevity and clarity in different ways; as an extreme example, most assembly languages would require hundreds of lines of code to perform the same task as a few characters in APL.
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SLOC is particularly ineffective at comparing programs written in different languages unless adjustment factors are applied to normalize languages. Various computer languages balance brevity and clarity in different ways; as an extreme example, most assembly languages would require hundreds of lines of code to perform the same task as a few characters in APL.
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I am still using XP, Vista and Win7...32 bits is good enuf for me.
Fine, but no DOS since XP.

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