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Old 02-20-2015, 08:19 PM   #11 (permalink)
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Q: what was the total vehicle weight with motor & batteries vs. original ICE?

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Old 02-20-2015, 09:25 PM   #12 (permalink)
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Q: what was the total vehicle weight with motor & batteries vs. original ICE?
I never weighed this rig before I converted it, but I think they usually weigh in around 1850 to 1900 lbs stock. I have added a couple hundred pounds to it, and it is closer to 2200 lbs now.
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Old 02-20-2015, 09:39 PM   #13 (permalink)
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I have a question... how does CARB deal with your conversions? Since the cars still have the same VIN, your registration renewal pals in the state government would expect you to have an ICE and require a smog test, no? Did you have to apply for some sort of certification? Costly?
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I have a question... how does CARB deal with your conversions? Since the cars still have the same VIN, your registration renewal pals in the state government would expect you to have an ICE and require a smog test, no? Did you have to apply for some sort of certification? Costly?
It is actually a pretty smooth change with the dmv. I just call and schedule an appointment with a smog referee. At the inspection appointment, the referee walks around and verifies that there is no place to add fuel, no generator, and that the vehicle is pure electric. Once he is satisfied that it is a pure electric, he prints out a smog certificate that looks just like the ones that you pay for every couple of years on your ICE vehicle. This one is free, and the smog referee updates the dmv system that this car is an EV. It says EV on the smog certificate, and dmv never asks for smog checks, ever. Exempt. Then you just keep paying your regular registration fees like any other car.
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What about the specs speed, range, cost and hours to build?
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What about the specs speed, range, cost and hours to build?
Lol... The answer to all of the above is "lots".

I run it up to 100 mph often. When I was building this, I was viewing a lot of conversions on evalbum, and often saw an owner say " I have had it up to 65, but my calculations show that it will go a lot faster". To me, a car does not go a certain speed unless you have actually done it.

As for range, I have pushed it to the 100 miles goal, but that is indeed pushing it and watching my battery gauges with lots of concern. That is also keeping it between 55 and 60, flat sacramento valley. 90 miles is my comfort zone.

Cost has not really been tallied up, but should come in above 30k. There is quite a bit more in this EV than just the conversion costs, since the chassis has been restored as well.

This project was over 1000 hours of build time, and a whole lot more learning the principles of electricity and physics.
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I wish CARB would give a project like this a HOV "ok" sticker for the bumper!

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... Cost has not really been tallied up, but should come in above 30k. There is quite a bit more in this EV than just the conversion costs, since the chassis has been restored as well.

This project was over 1000 hours of build time, and a whole lot more learning the principles of electricity and physics.
I would imagine that a more basic conversion could be accomplished for under $10K, no? And a lot less than a 1000 hours, I hope.
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I would imagine that a more basic conversion could be accomplished for under $10K, no? And a lot less than a 1000 hours, I hope.
Yea, building an EV is like building a hotrod. You can spend $3k but you can also spend $250k. One does not need to restore the car, or drive 100 miles either. I do inexpensive conversions, high dollar conversions, and anything in between. In general, you get what you pay for. The best value is do do your own conversion work; sweat labor...
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The nicest Metro I've ever seen on the streets was metallic blue with those wheels, probably the same as the 'sister car'.

How many conversions have you done, over how many years? What performance would you expect with a 68hp/50Kw 10,000rpm single speed AC motor?
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The nicest Metro I've ever seen on the streets was metallic blue with those wheels, probably the same as the 'sister car'.

How many conversions have you done, over how many years? What performance would you expect with a 68hp/50Kw 10,000rpm single speed AC motor?
68HP is about what a stock gasoline powered Metro comes with, and I would think that single speed would be a bit of a problem. The torque would probably be more than the ICE motor, but I would want a transmission. I run the factory 5 speed in this rig, and this is a 70Kw set up.

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