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Old 07-11-2020, 11:34 PM   #51 (permalink)
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I missed something... you have a YouTube channel for this restoration?

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Old 07-12-2020, 04:11 PM   #52 (permalink)
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I missed something... you have a YouTube channel for this restoration?
You haven't missed anything. I never mentioned it and this will be the first Civic video I post. It's scheduled for Monday at 130p EST (1030a PST). Here is the link, it should work after Monday at 130p. Youtube lists the video as private so it should just not work until tomorrow. Lets find out



I am new to video making, so I could use feedback. I think some of the shots could have been better and a couple parts of the voiceover. The installation at the end probably should have used a different camera position as well. The hood made it difficult, but I think if I used a smaller tripod I could have put it on the engine or radiator.
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Old 07-12-2020, 09:38 PM   #53 (permalink)
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...it should work after Monday at 130p. Youtube lists the video as private so it should just not work until tomorrow. Lets find out ...
I did watch, and I thought the video was good. Great result and enough detail to show someone else how to repeat your results.
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Old 07-14-2020, 04:26 PM   #54 (permalink)
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that is one clean master cylinder. BEAUTIFUL! love old cars too
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I accidentally edited my last post in this thread rather than writing a new one. Doh! I was wondering why it looked like the text from my previous post was in my new message! DOH!
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Old 08-03-2020, 01:00 AM   #56 (permalink)
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So I pulled the valve cover off the fiat about a week ago. What I saw was concerning and I realized I never checked the engine in the civic.

For comparison, my 73 Fiat 124 sedan:


And the civic:


Looks good. Then I noticed on the front of the engine by the oil dipstick:


One of the valve lash adjusters. You can see the missing spot on the right side 4th valve away from the front. The screw piece looks fine. The nut is slightly smashed, but relatively unharmed. I figured I'd go ahead and pull the upper timing cover for a look since you have to take the valve cover off first anyway. One of the bolts was loose and the cover ear partially broken. The other is stuck. When I go to loosen it the socket (six point) starts to cam out (like a stripped screw) and won't keep a grip. I tried vice grips, but its pretty cramped and I can't get any except the smallest to fit and still had no luck. A friend has a set of rounded head sockets I am going to try and worst case is I either weld a wrench to the bolt head to break it loose or I try to cut the head off to salvage the cover and attempt to remove the exposed stud. Any other ideas?




Also if anyone wants to help me look for a replacement timing cover this is the only part number I could find for it. TIA.
11820-657-010
https://www.hondapartsnow.com/genuin...n=pd:3449205,7
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Old 08-04-2020, 12:38 AM   #57 (permalink)
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It is amazing how similar the valve cover, the lifters, and the lash adjusting nuts all are to a late-90s Civic. My thought about your stuck bolt on the timing cover is that you might want to cut through the timing cover right around that Bolt. Obviously you'll be damaging the timing cover and doing that, but I think you're going to do a lot more damage to that plastic cover with a welding torch. Cutting the cover at the bolt at least gives you the chance to repairit later with adhesives. Inmy experience, Honda's plastic cover breaks easily too. It could crack while youtry to extract the bolt with a wrench.
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Old 11-01-2020, 02:35 PM   #58 (permalink)
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It's been awhile since I messed with the civic. Just renewed the registration on it (only $23!) and made me think of this thread. I tried cutting a slot in the bolt head with a dremel and using a screwdriver bit in a ratchet. That didn't work.

I also joined the first gen civic group on facebook and asked if anyone had a timing cover for it. No replies.

Then I was sitting there just looking at the car and realized I have to remove the head anyway to try and free the engine. So the new plan is I am just going to cut the timing belt and remove the head. Then I can try and get the bolt out on the bench with better access to it. What I am hoping for is that I drill the bolt head off, remove the cover, then remove the shank of the bolt.

I have a few other things to catch up on before I can get the garage cleaned up enough that I can comfortably work in there. So no real progress for now and probably not for a few more months.
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I just [re]found the thread.

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First, I think this is a wicked cool "ecomod" idea!
I'm not sure what you are suggesting.
Patina'd restomod?
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Keeping the old steel and plastice
If this is a saying I've never heard it before.
Possible typo?

Is it still up on jackstands? If so I'd recommend pull the drums and rotors and send them. off to some place like Frozen Rotors.



It will at least double the service life of the parts. Potentially, 3 or 4x the service life.

Ed Roth's Civic was a CVCC:


justacarguy.blogspot.com: How has this incredible collection of Roth's vehicles and art not been covered by Hot Rod or some other car magazine? It's awesome

Good luck trying to reproduce that paint job.
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How much are the frozen rotor service? The only number I found I don't like. I will probably just buy a few extra sets before I pay as much as (I think) they want for that treatment.

I'll have to admit, I had to google who Ed Roth was.

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