01-27-2012, 08:46 PM
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. . . you forget hp is maths, torque is real life.
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Max torque at the wheels, at any given road speed, is in the gear that puts the motor at max power . . . maths and real life.
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01-29-2012, 11:20 PM
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Lifting off in a RWD can have similar effects  |
And in a RWD car, your only option is to try to steer out of it.
In a FWD car, lift-off can be lovely fun, depending on how well set up the rear is. You lift, the car rotates, then you have the option of countersteering or shoving the gas pedal to the floor... or both. I've had mad fun with a Picanto in a parking lot this way. |
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01-30-2012, 09:06 AM
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Originally Posted by tortoise
Max torque at the wheels, at any given road speed, is in the gear that puts the motor at max power . . . maths and real life.
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Both (and lots of both) is best 
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And in a RWD car, your only option is to try to steer out of it.
In a FWD car, lift-off can be lovely fun, depending on how well set up the rear is. You lift, the car rotates, then you have the option of countersteering or shoving the gas pedal to the floor... or both. I've had mad fun with a Picanto in a parking lot this way.
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RWD will do liftoff oversteer too- can be fun hanging onto a "tank Slapper" for a distance..
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01-30-2012, 03:13 PM
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RWD will do liftoff oversteer too- can be fun hanging onto a "tank Slapper" for a distance..
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Anyone driven a RWD 911 (especially 'Widowmaker' 930 911 Turbo) and their famous advice, 'Do not lift!"
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01-31-2012, 06:43 AM
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Oh... what I meant was that you had one way to end a slide with a RWD car... keep constant throttle and steer out of it (hitting the brakes or lifting off will exacerbate the slide)... though you have a whole lot of different ways to initiate it, lift-off, trail-brake, flick, clutch-kick, downshift...
Granted, not much is as fun on track as a good rear-driver... every time I have a Miata in the garage, I've got a grin on my face from ear-to-ear... but a really good front-driver can be nearly as much fun.
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01-31-2012, 08:18 AM
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Anyone driven a RWD 911 (especially 'Widowmaker' 930 911 Turbo) and their famous advice, 'Do not lift!"
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Ach, that just adds some "spice " to the occasion
and I did say a "well balanced" RWD car...
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01-31-2012, 01:46 PM
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HORSEPOWER is just "...how fast..." you can make the TORQUE pulses occur.
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01-31-2012, 03:08 PM
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Ach, that just adds some "spice " to the occasion
and I did say a "well balanced" RWD car... |
Naw, it just needs someone who owns a 911 who isn't a hairdresser, and a model of 911 not aimed at crimpers.
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01-31-2012, 03:22 PM
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Naw, it just needs someone who owns a 911 who isn't a hairdresser, and a model of 911 not aimed at crimpers.
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Even has time to take his gloves off and put them back on... TWICE!! Truly an amazing driver!!
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