02-20-2008, 10:22 AM
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Or, you could simply try to find some lowering springs/coil-overs and go from there. If you lower the car and put a big chin spoiler on the front, not much air is going to find its way under the car but you won't have to worry about big time heat buildup due to belly pans.
Springs: http://www.eurosporttuning.ca/Mercha...Code=VL-240-su
Some people I know of have molded a newer style 850 (850 T5 to be exact) front bumper on the front of their 240s. They're much more aerodynamic and sit a bit lower as well.
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02-20-2008, 11:56 AM
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Thanks aerohead.
I like the basic concept - do the best you can and don't fall into the trap of fretting that it's not ideal.
Anyway, since a pic is worth a thousand words, here's what Sven looks like back there. You see the bumper, then a valence panel, then the muffler. Tank is at far right photo edge.
I think I may just run the screening material over the whole area. Screening to be painted so it becomes more of a solid sheet. I'll likely not paint directly below the muffler.
Any comments on heat buildup or anything else?
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02-20-2008, 04:52 PM
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If you smell something burning, open up the ventilation?
I'm waiting for some guidance on how to "avoid the node" and select the proper hangars so my next exhaust system isn't a disaster.
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02-20-2008, 08:10 PM
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Yeah, just lower it is my suggestion.
Dunno why everyone around here is so set on the stock ride height. Why not have an economical car that can actually go around a corner or be stable in weird crosswinds?
Maybe I'm just too much of a racer at heart who likes capable vehicles in more than one sense.
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07-03-2009, 12:02 AM
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Sorry, back from the dead!
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Holy CRAP, this shot me down memory lane!!
I remember playing the video game.
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Yeah, just lower it is my suggestion.
Dunno why everyone around here is so set on the stock ride height. Why not have an economical car that can actually go around a corner or be stable in weird crosswinds?
Maybe I'm just too much of a racer at heart who likes capable vehicles in more than one sense.
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Street racer, I assume. There are little concepts involving a vehicles roll center and suspension geometry that say lowering everything does not always make it handle better. And don't crosswinds really have more to do with the aerodynamic side profile than suspension setup? A tractor trailer slammed to 1" of ground clearance will still have issues in a strong crosswind. Simply adding stiffer springs or thicker sway bars would be what is actually helping to quell the side to side motions.
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Smaller muffler that's not freeflow Flowsound 1 chamber Knockoff of the flowmaster 10 series and should be about the size you want
Not to mention it's only 40 bucks from ebay
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Smaller muffler that's not freeflow Flowsound 1 chamber Knockoff of the flowmaster 10 series and should be about the size you want
Not to mention it's only 40 bucks from ebay
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Disagree. Unless the whole system is replaced from/including the header-back, it can only hurt FE or generate useless noise. Noted from experience. Stick to stock or custom design with a LOT of calculated consideration.
Read the following websites on advanced exhaust design:
Basic Exhaust
Advanced Exhaust 1
Advanced Exhaust II
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Disagree. Unless the whole system is replaced from/including the header-back, it can only hurt FE or generate useless noise. Noted from experience. Stick to stock or custom design with a LOT of calculated consideration.
Read the following websites on advanced exhaust design:
Basic Exhaust
Advanced Exhaust 1
Advanced Exhaust II
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well he was explaining that he needed something different than stock for fit and i was saying what would fit what he needed
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Is it possible,that an elliptical shell type (vs round like yours)muffler from a different car,but of same displacement might fit where you need it?
Another tidbit,a neighbor who installed a Subaru engine into his wasserboxer VW Vanagon used a 'tractor' muffler,from,you guessed it.Tractor Supply.It was compact and to my knowledge did not degrade performance.
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02-06-2010, 07:28 PM
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pressedential i have had a very well sealed belly pan for quite a while now and have not seen this heat issue you speak of, and i also have a complete upper grill block, my engine temps are the same as before, never seen temps above 190, so belly pans dont have to = high temps.
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