Fuel Saver Flash Chip?

[hondo434]

Suspectnumber, I'm the owner of the other thread in the "Unicorn section". I see you believe that hho has promise. Myself, I don't have an opinion one way or the other, but you should try for yourself and make your own discoveries. Just ignore the bullies who think everyone is a mutton head and can't think for themselves. I tried my experiment and I was pleasantly surprized, so don't give up trying, some is watching and is interested.

[suspectnumber961]

Unfortunately...I'll be returning the Volo chip. Did not see an mpg gain. I would have been happy with a 3 to 5% gain...but no go.

To be fair they mention issues with Ford ECUs....and the ISO "protocol" is not one they recommend...both of which were involved in this test. Also 2 changes previous to testing the chip...front belly pan and upper grill block with increased intake temps.

from my notes:

Installed Volo chip and reset it warm at idle....seems to be working OK. ....ready for the 120 mile break in.

Had issues with the connectors and getting the right wires figured out due to the port being upside down and the wires coming out the back...etc.

Seems to give more power under acceleration when using warm air intake now at 45-50F above ambient vs the ECU settings. On this last trip I saw the best trip mileage on local backroads with lots of stops and curves that I've seen yet.

After installing chip on 10/3/11...I drove the car around 110 miles until refilling it on 10/7/11. Over the next 422 miles I got an avg of 34 mpg...where the previous 3 tank avg was 34.8 mpg....a loss of 0.8 mpg. Avg temp over this 2 week period ranged from 65F to 55F....similar to the temps during the previous 3 tanks. Driving technique was about the same as with the previous 3 tanks using the Scangauge. One difference might be the change over to winter gas around the start of Oct (?) and higher intake temps due to the upper grill block.

[Arragonis]

Well done - at least you tried it and they have that money back warranty so no loss.

[broski499]

Just got the FS3 installed in my 1999 camry 4 banger, I have a ultragauge set up and just filled up to a full tank. Last tank with just the ultragauge I got 26 mpg, I have the same driving schedule lined up for the next tank so I will let you all know how it goes. It says its takes 160miles to optimize, I usually get over 400 a tank so even with that I should see a difference.

[Ecky]

I could imagine something like this working if the chip is smart enough - a poor man's "lean burn". I'd rather have a manual controller that would allow me to lean out my mix (without throwing a CEL or causing other problems) rather than rely on an algorithm though.

[justing]

I have the HHO version of the VOLO chip I dont have my HHO dry cell on yet, with the chip alone I went from 22.5 to 27.3, this gain has held for about 6 months. I added a warm air intake and went up to 28.2.

[broski499]

I recently took a long trip up to Bakersfield with the Volo installed, now mind you I have never broke 30 MPG prior to this trip. I hit 35.8 MPG, if it were not for one bathroom stop I think I could have hit 36 or even 37. I really feel like the Volo Chip is doing something. I use a ultragauge and noticed that my car now idles at a lower usage of fuel. I cruised at 62 mpg most of the trip and was getting 40 MPG at that speed.

[broski499]

Been only doing around town driving lately and have been using hypermiling techniques but have not seen any real mpg gains then what I'm used to with just hypermiling, I'm going to say save your 60 bucks and buy a ultraguage or a scanguage. the volo chip is not an affective way to save gas at all.

[esnap]

I think folks that are high on HHO forget that any power you get from recombining H and O (burning it) can not be greater than the struggle (HP used ) their ICE had in turning the alternator to separate the two, less line loses (which are a lot)

The problem is that some folks may see gains but that is more likely due to the moisture that it induced in to the cylinders which actually does produce more efficient combustion. It is a classic case of "mis-attribution of causation"

An EFIE that would lean out your burn will gain you incredible MPGs but at the cost of burning up your head (s) and causing havoc.

If there was a way to inject water and variably lean out your fuel in a balanced way, I think we could see some great MPG numbers and not destroy our engine.

In other words HHO generators are just very messy and inefficient water injection devices.

[suspectnumber961]

Over-unity hydrogen generation using high voltage plasma....

http://www.lenr-canr.org/acrobat/MizunoTconfirmatib.pdf


In same graph, the current efficiency of hydrogen gas generation are shown; the efficiency reached 8 (that is, 800% of the expected Faradic value), and it continued during plasma electrolysis at 230 V. Faraday’s law predicts that 2440 cc should have been produced during the entire test run, but 5100 cc was measured (2662 cc excess). When we consider only hydrogen produced during periods when plasma formed, Faraday’s law predicts 905 cc, and the measured amount was 3240 cc (2335 cc excess; 2.6 times the predicted value).