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Old 10-04-2012, 02:15 PM   #21 (permalink)
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The DoD has researched plasma generators (made from spark plugs and metal tubing) for treatment of diesel fuel to meet EPA emissions standards. (The study also mentions that water vapor can be reformed into hydrogen and oxygen, with the addition of a catalyst.)
And by adding energy first to create the plasma or reform the water ...

Wether you'll get that energy back in improved efficiency, is quite another thing.

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Old 10-04-2012, 03:44 PM   #22 (permalink)
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The DoD study makes no claims of overunity (always a good sign, especially in a government study). The idea was to reform a portion of the fuel, then either inject the resulting gases into the combustion mix, or into a post-combustion reactor, to improve emissions, particularly PM10. The losses to the system for generating the plasma were considered a fair exchange for the intended results. They mentioned that there was room for improving the efficiency of the plasma generator.

If the GEET reactor can supply the plasma necessary to reform all or part of the fuel to allow it to burn more efficiently in an internal combustion engine by utilizing the static electricity produced from the movement of hot exhaust gases in a confined space, it could conceivably improve the efficiency of the system.

Doesn't that sound more acceptable than talking about magic magnetics converting coffee and soda into fuel? Ahh, but it isn't as mesmerizing and I guess that is the point for Pantone.
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Doesn't that sound more acceptable than talking about magic magnetics converting coffee and soda into fuel? Ahh, but it isn't as mesmerizing and I guess that is the point for Pantone.
Its amazing how one ideot can make a potentially workable device from rockwell that could even have small benefits in specific applications, such that both himself and the design are discredited. When in reality only the guy with the claim should be thoroughly discredited.

The purpose I've seen stated elsewhere for the various "GEET" experiments was to try to get a system where the exhaust powers a CAT like device that reforms the entire intake charge into lighter more burnable compounds. Whether we have enough heat and whether it works is another thing, as ACP states it probably doesn't work out so well in reality, since you do have to start the engine and stop it.

So effectively a CAT ahead of the motor, that idea may in some form be workable (rockwell had one already) If someone would enter reality and test a well MADE device (not a geet) in a controlled situation. It may have benefits in certain situations.

The main benefit that comes off the top of my head is the ability to burn fuels other than gasoline in a gasoline motor (if of coarse you can figure out how to start the darn thing), sort of like having your own onboard refinery.

But, sadly because some scammer latched onto it, no such luck.

Ah well.
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I find the design where the liquid fuel gets reformed into water and carbon dioxide inside the comustion chamber works quite well.
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I find the design where the liquid fuel gets reformed into water and carbon dioxide inside the comustion chamber works quite well.
Especially on a diesel cycle, too bad most cars aren't multifuel capable diesels.
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Old 10-07-2012, 02:24 AM   #27 (permalink)
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GEET works

2005 Subaru Legacy running two fuel injectors getting 68MPG.
89 SR5 Toyota pick up running on a lawn mower carb.
Seems pretty useful to me.
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Old 10-07-2012, 05:47 AM   #28 (permalink)
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Well thats it, there you have it.

Case closed.

Obviously works.

I for one am quite happy to believe someone who has just signed up, made only one post making an unsunstantiated claim.

How can we doubt it...

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Old 10-07-2012, 06:44 AM   #29 (permalink)
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GEET works

Only found this forum thanks to Google alerts on GEET.

Great idea on the unicorn. GEET powered Unicorn art car for Burning Man. Wow I'd get laid by a different playa bunny every morning, afternoon, evening and night.

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Well, I'm sold. Sign me up!

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