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Old 10-07-2012, 04:53 PM   #31 (permalink)
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GEET works

I have nothing to sign you up for. You will have to sign yourself up and do the work yourself. I recommend you work on small engines first. I did 32cc, 6HP, 3.5HP, 6.5HP and 14.5HP engines before working on a vehicle. The 32cc and 6HP motors got destroyed. Don't do two-stroke unless it has an oil pump as the oil in the petrol get's converted to GEET gas and there's no more oil to lubricate the engine. Also you have to control the RPMs as the 6HP engine ran away and went so fast that it seized and the head cracked.

It's been four years of research and development for me. At first it was confusing and several times I called foul that is was bogus, but people who did it convinced me to keep trying. Now it is easy for me to make it work. You need to trick the computer of a newer car so it doesn't increase fuel when it sees lots of oxygen in the exhaust.

We ran a 14.5HP art car at Burning Man on petrol, whiskey, white gas and urine. It ran a lot better with the urine in the mix.

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Old 10-07-2012, 05:03 PM   #32 (permalink)
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89 SR5 Toyota pick up running on a lawn mower carb.
What kind of "lawn mower carb"?
I want to believe but you are not giving me much to work with.

I read about the Subaru running two fuel injectors getting 68MPG, seems like BS to me. Had all the standard BS red flags, mainly the "secret patents".
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Old 10-07-2012, 05:28 PM   #33 (permalink)
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Secret patents? Patents aren't secret. You can look them up at the patent office.

What is not clear about lawn mower carb?

I'm leaving next month for another country. Going to help a business man there with conversion for diesel trucks. He has two electrical engineers who are developing a ECU modification. We have to keep the electronics closed/protected so people can't easily copy our work. This is not cheap research and we want to make money with a product. I've spent thousands and have not made a penny. The country I'm going to doesn't have copyright protection so we have to make something that can't easily be copied, but they have a real need.

You won't believe me until you have success doing the work. I didn't believe when I started.
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Old 10-07-2012, 07:33 PM   #34 (permalink)
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@ Orion - I wouldn't believe you until we filled your Subaru with gas and then chit chatted with you for a few hours as we drive 200 miles or so then refill your tank with only 3 gallons of Gas. Something tells me that would never happen, either you wouldn't allow the company, or 6+ gallons would be added.

Here in Ecomodder, we understand where the inefficiencies exist in the turn gasoline into miles traveled equation, and unless you've somehow doubled the chemical energy potential of gasoline, this has no chance of working as claimed. Basic laws of chemistry, thermodynamics, and physics can't be changed by a fancy fuel intake system. You'd be better off letting this drop here rather than try and convince a bunch of smart people that this works. You've just flown into a hornets nest of intelligent skeptics, don't think we're just going to take your word for anything. Be prepared to explain things well.

And for the love of God, DO NOT proclaim that we need to prove to you that it doesn't work, this will instantly make you a moron of the highest order and unworthy of having a conversation with.
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Old 10-07-2012, 09:25 PM   #35 (permalink)
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If I drove his car, I'd want to put it on a scale before and after to rule out a hidden gas tank. Hidden gas tank is a famous NASCAR "creative rule interpretation".
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Secret patents? Patents aren't secret. You can look them up at the patent office.
I know, but when you read about some of these unicorns there is a "secret patent" and the inventer person wont give up a patent number or details hence the secret.

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What is not clear about lawn mower carb?
Only everything.
There is more than one kind of lawn mower carb. They don't all use the same one.
Was it a carb for a 3 horsepower mower or a 20 horsepower twin cylinder engine? 2 or 4 cycle engine?
Which company manufactured the carb or what engine did it come off?
A rough guess at the year it was made would be handy.

The ultimate question is what does the primative lawn mower carb offer that an advanced 2 or 4 barrel carb does not?

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You won't believe me until you have success doing the work. I didn't believe when I started.
This is what we do.
I am a diesel mechanic by trade and its also my hobby.
Give us something.
All the modifications I have done are covered in detail on different posts.
I'm not hiding anything.
If I used a lawn mower carb to fuel a vehicle that got exceptional MPGs I would have a wiki post with pictures and detailed decriptions of what I did along was air/fuel ratio measurements.
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GEET works

If I think someone is worth my time then I'd be happy to let them do all the testing they would like. That's why I'm going out of the country for four months to third world to work with a government leader and an insurance tycoon. People in other countries seem to be a lot less stubborn about accepting new realities and bright futures. Too many Americans clinging on to centuries old knowledge. France has caught on. Two girls won a rally within their car class, because they got better mileage than everyone else with the same car. Thousands of other stories in France.

I'd share a lot of information here if there is reciprocation of knowledge. I'm bound by agreements not to share details about projects I've helped with. My own personal project right now is to convert my Ford F800 turbo diesel. I've done supplemental GEET using urine and got 15% more mileage out of my fuel. Mileage averaged 6-7MPG for over 2000 miles. Mileage averaged 7-8MPG from San Diego to Modesto. Plus it felt more responsive and cooler running.

To do full conversion I have to figure out how to disengage my injection pump. Otherwise I have to run fuel through it, which means feeding six fuel lines out of my injection pump into two 3-4' long hoses in order to feed a couple injectors feeding the reactor. On the other side of the reactor I need to have a big vacuum pump creating vacuum on the reactor and injecting the reformed gas into the intake manifold that is under 7-21PSI pressure from the turbo charger. According to the inventor I need to take out my turbo charger, but I'm intent on inventing some new application for turbo charged vehicles. To my understanding, nobody has modified a turbo charged vehicle with a GEET.

I'm selling my 2005 Subaru Legacy GT so I can buy a cheap Mazda with a rotary engine. No chance of a backfire blowing out your rings with one of those Wankel engines. I've learned enough lessons to understand that trying to mod the turbo charged Subaru is going to be very expensive for R&D and could potentially blow my rings if I don't spend $400/hr on a dyno having the engine tuned. I've got over $400K of debt so I'm not going to take that risk.

Love and light for a bright and clean future on planet Earth.

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If I think someone is worth my time then I'd be happy to let them do all the testing they would like. That's why I'm going out of the country for four months to third world to work with a government leader and an insurance tycoon...
Has the Nigerian Prince retired ? /sarc

If you can't demo it, maybe youtube or even photos or real tests then it stays in the unicorn meadow with good reason IMHO.

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I have no idea what your sarcasm about a Nigerian prince means. Was that for me?

This is the only personal video I have to share.
The Jenk Train and Element 11 on Vimeo
There's huge amount of media from others available online.

I have a photo of before and after smog tests from a San Diego smog shop. The motor is CARB certified 6.5HP Harbor Freight blue engine.

Other than this I'm not out to prove anything to the haters. I've got plenty of work ahead of me as it is.
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