Hertz Bankrupt but...

[JSH]

Originally Posted by redpoint5

CarMax sells rental vehicles?

I suppose the warranty appeals to some people, but the cars already carry whatever the remainder of the manufacturer warranty is left. Reconditioning might have some value too, but in my experience it mostly amounts to heavy use of Armor All on the interior surfaces.

If you ask a dealer how a used car was driven, if it was driven by a young male or an old grandma, the maintenance records, etc, they can't tell you anything. All that stuff is known by an owner though. I suppose a rental vehicle would have regular maintenance, but then again just about any newer vehicle would have been maintained per schedule.

Yes, CarMax sells rental vehicles - all dealers do. Most of their cars come from wholesale auctions and rental companies send a huge volume of cars to auctions. (You should go to a wholesale auction if you get the chance - they are CRAZY)

Dealers also sell their loaner cars which are just rentals that the customer doesn't pay for.

[rmay635703]

Originally Posted by JSH

The same way
also includes a 1 year / 12K mile warranty on their cars. They also provide financing and take trade ins.

How is Hertz different than CarMax?

Uh huh, hertz is expected to be gone in a matter of weeks if their efforts fail.

That is how they are different and puts them into the wholesale pricing only category

[redpoint5]

It astonishes me there are so many rental companies. They really should be consolidated into what, 4 companies? How are they differentiated anyhow?

[Fat Charlie]

The same reason there are a ton of different hotel brands and car brands: false choices. Chevy, Buick, Cadillac, what's the difference? Chrysler/Dodge/Jeep/Ram are even worse.

Enterprise, Alamo and Avis are the same company. Avis, Budget, Payless and Zipcar are the same, and Hertz, Dollar and Thtifty are all the same.

[JSH]

Originally Posted by rmay635703

Uh huh, hertz is expected to be gone in a matter of weeks if their efforts fail.

That is how they are different and puts them into the wholesale pricing only category

If Hertz was going to sell cars at wholesale prices they would just send them to auction and be done with it.

[Xist]

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[Fat Charlie]

I get mine from Zenni.

Originally Posted by JSH

If Hertz was going to sell cars at wholesale prices they would just send them to auction and be done with it.

They'd get killed at auction. They're hoping to get saps to walk in thinking "fire sale", point out how far below book they're asking and clean up on people who think they're getting great deals. The difference in what they get can keep the lights on a bit longer.

[redpoint5]

My childhood dream was to own a company that sells various goods with zero branding. You'd know you had my company product by the quality and lack of any branding. I'd never have a "sale", but prices would fluctuate with demand, supply, and cost.

Would probably never work since it takes quite a bit of emotional manipulation to make a successful business usually.

[JSH]

Originally Posted by Fat Charlie

I get mine from Zenni.

They'd get killed at auction. They're hoping to get saps to walk in thinking "fire sale", point out how far below book they're asking and clean up on people who think they're getting great deals. The difference in what they get can keep the lights on a bit longer.

They wouldn't get "killed" any more than any other dealer / company selling cars at auction. Yes, dumping all their cars at once would depress prices - for everyone. If Hertz completely fails and liquidates their cars will go to auction. Dealers will buy them and then sell them to public at retail prices.

The point of selling cars direct to buyers is to get more money per car. Someone buying from Hertz is no more a sap than someone buying from any other dealer. Hertz is selling for less than average dealer prices so yes that is still a deal.

You aren't going to get wholesale prices from a dealer and the general public isn't allowed into wholesale auctions.

Again, how is a 1 year old car selling for less than 50% of new not a deal?

[rmay635703]

Originally Posted by JSH

If Hertz was going to sell cars at wholesale prices they would just send them to auction and be done with it.

700,000 cars would cut the black book in half or less, right now that’s at parity with the entire pandemic North American market.

AKA If they were charging a legitimate wholesale+ amount to the retail market they would sell, if they dumped into the actual wholesale marketplace values would simply drop off a cliff

Hard place to be in but it is what is it is.