Honda CR-Z hybrid *production* version

[some_other_dave]

Originally Posted by RobertSmalls

... the CR-Z is heavy even by 2011 standards. At 2654lbs, it's within 50lbs of the weight of a second-gen Insight, a Fit, and even a base model Civic.

By today's standards, that is light! Anything under 3,000 lbs seems to be considered "lightweight" today. Heck, the last couple of generations of BMW roadsters (the last few years of Z3 and all of the Z4) are within a gnat's ass of 3K lbs.

The only new car I know of that is under one ton is the Lotus Elise. And the rumor mill says that Lotus will bring out a four-seater soon, which will weigh in at a "lightweight" 3,000 lbs...

Your point that the car is heavy is true, but that is when you judge against older cars. It's lighter than (or within a few pounds of) just about anything new you can currently buy.

-soD

[PaleMelanesian]

... batteries ...

[gone-ot]

Originally Posted by PaleMelanesian

... batteries ...

...are HEAVY.

[Nevyn]

It's also not 100% Aluminum frame like the Insight-I.

[gone-ot]

...ah, yes, ye olde' "...aluminum-apples to iron-oranges..." comparison.

[Daox]

49 mpg @ 55 mph is not that bad for a 'fun' car IMO.

[PaleMelanesian]

Agreed on that point, Daox.

[Nevyn]

Originally Posted by Old Tele man

...ah, yes, ye olde' "...aluminum-apples to iron-oranges..." comparison.

They're both fruit!

I get what you're saying though. I merely mention it as part of the "Why is it so heavy?" debate, nothing more.

[miket]

I cant weight till the edison2 very light car is in production. <1000lbs.

[gone-ot]

Originally Posted by miket

I cant weight till the edison2 very light car is in production. <1000lbs.

...why do I get the feeling that it'll end up being viewed as a self-propelled, high-milage, aluminum coffin?