07-05-2019, 11:17 AM
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^ From what I've read, Honda has repeatedly said this car is meant for city use. Thus not too much concern with aero, and the small-ish battery pack capacity.
I read one comment from an owner of a Hyundai Ionic EV, and they pointed out the relative IN-efficiency of the Honda by comparison.
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07-05-2019, 11:26 AM
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What good is a car that can't do well in both city and highway use?
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07-05-2019, 11:58 AM
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Looks like a VW Rabbit to me
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It's suposed to be a retro first-gen Civic IIRC.
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07-05-2019, 12:38 PM
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I'd drive it. I like the look of it!
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07-05-2019, 06:29 PM
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What good is a car that can't do well in both city and highway use?
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With the small battery capacity, you aren't going to get very far anyway on the freeway, and that situation wouldn't be changed all that much with improved aerodynamic efficiency (e.g. you probably aren't going to take it on a long road trip if you have 150 miles of range that you wouldn't do with 125).
Also, remember that aero efficiency is proportional not just to drag coefficient but cross-sectional area, where this car looks to be smaller than most. And further, we have no idea what the drag coefficient is, since Honda declines to publish those numbers these days. |
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07-05-2019, 07:29 PM
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They should be making around town EVs with ~40 kWh battery and price it to reflect the limited utility (commuter/grocery getter). That's what this looks like... but the price. You can pick up a new Chevy Bolt for ~$28k these days, and that has a 60 kWh battery.
Where are the $19k EVs with 40 kWh battery?
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07-05-2019, 10:20 PM
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What good is a car that can't do well in both city and highway use?
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Perfectly fine  In countries like Japan (and Australia for the most part) highway driving is mostly theoretical. |
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07-06-2019, 02:49 PM
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I love "the template" but I would rather not live in a world where every car HAD to look like that shape. May the Great Flying Spaghetti Monster grant semolina blessings and marinara dispensations on the engineers and industrial designers responsible for the Honda E, with its effort to make the future of cars cleaner and still about beauty and joy. Best looking production electric car yet.
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07-08-2019, 05:52 PM
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More details including the hatch and inside:
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07-09-2019, 01:34 PM
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That dash has an excessive amount of screens just begging for your attention, not sure how you could train yourself to keep your eyes on the road. I'm not sure you could even see the road at night if all those screens were on.
The tiny aero benefit from the side view cameras won't warrant the future cost of replacement for any of the the parts, or the extra screens inside. And if the cameras are anything like my rear camera on my truck the night view will be terrible
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