Hybrid sports cars?

[freebeard]

[niky]

Originally Posted by LeanBurn

Here is the one you want...Porsche 918 Spyder
Combined fuel consumption in accordance with EU 5: 3.1-3.0 l/100 km

6:57 - Nordschleife

NEDC is/was a rubbish test. Especially for anything with a battery.

EPA rates the 918 at 3.5 l/100km combined gas/electric, down to 11 l/100km on gasoline only (city/highway), and 9.8 l/100km on the highway.

Originally Posted by vskid3

The funny thing is both the Accord Hybrid and Volt have quicker acceleration, at least twice as many seats, and deliver at least the same fuel economy. Handling and small size are about all the CR-Z has going for it.

The CR-Z is a great little sport compact saddled with the worst hybrid system in the world. Absolutely gutless performance and the fuel economy benefits of the hybrid system are questionable. It's basically a glorified stop start system that gives you a smidge more power when you floor it... but only in five second bursts.

[Ecky]

Originally Posted by niky

The CR-Z is a great little sport compact saddled with the worst hybrid system in the world. Absolutely gutless performance and the fuel economy benefits of the hybrid system are questionable. It's basically a glorified stop start system that gives you a smidge more power when you floor it... but only in five second bursts.

Is that all it gets? The Insight can sustain low levels of assist for 5-10 minutes.

[gone-ot]

Originally Posted by freebeard

Is that for real...or merely a CGI image? It looks like a toy on a rug.

[freebeard]

Real as anything in this simulacrum world. There are/were two, a red one and a silver one.

https://duckduckgo.com/?q=toyota+ale...ta&t=h_&ia=web

[TimV]

I have an Volvo V60 D6 plug in hybrid.

0 to 62mph (100km/h) with launch control is 5.5 seconds.
0 to 93mph (150km/h) with launch control is 11,8 seconds.
Top speed is 150mph (240km/h).
It has 285hp (up to 150km/h) weights 2000 kg.
If you chip it. It is 2 seconds faster to 150km/h!

If you drive it ecomodder style. You do get 50km on a single charge. If you hypermile the **** out of it you can do with a full battery and an diesel cunsumption of les then 2l/100km for the first 100km. After that it does around 4l/100km if you drive slower then 56mpg (90km/h).

It has an 45liter tank and will do a lot of distance in hypermile.

Here you see on the right the guese o meter of distance to empty tank. Only 1 full charge done. 1500km on a single tank is possible without recharging!




This is the dyno run to messure the wheel horespower.
560Nm and 271hp!

[niky]

Originally Posted by Ecky

Is that all it gets? The Insight can sustain low levels of assist for 5-10 minutes.

That's full power. Good enough to drop the 0-62 mph times by about a second and a half. I believe they limit it to preserve the motors and batteries.

The amount of time it can sustain modest assist, on the other hand, is unknown to me. But I do recall that the AC compressor couldn't run with the engine off... which, in a tropical country with some of the worst traffic in the world, is the number one reason people have for buying a hybrid.

[mattrod]

Originally Posted by freebeard

I like the 918, but it's a little spendy. I'd settle for a Memminger Roadster 2.7




...with a mild hybrid created by adding a Buick laCrosse altermotor to the Type IV boxer mid-engine.

As for a production hybrid sports car, Toyota could have implemented the Alessandro Volta as early as 2004:


https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Toyota_concept_vehicles,_2000%E2%80%9309#Alessandr o_Volta

http://www.carstyling.ru/resources/studio/2004id_toyota_alessandro_volta_02.jpg

It has a well proven drive train out of a Highlander/LX400h SUV swapped end-for-end, with the V-6 in back. I have an example of the 68hp electric [rear] axle that may go in a VW Beetle some day.

Wow! I like the Beetle-inspired design of the Roadster 2.7.

[cRiPpLe_rOoStEr]

Originally Posted by Ecky

Food for thought, it wouldn't be terribly difficult to take a Prius and (for Toyota to) quadruple battery and motor size.

What about dropping a Prius drivetrain into the MR2? It was quite surprising to me that Toyota didn't even try.

Originally Posted by ksa8907

I'm waiting for the hybrid camaro, hopefully I dont have to wait too long.

Maybe a hybrid Mustang will come first.

[Ecky]

Originally Posted by cRiPpLe_rOoStEr

What about dropping a Prius drivetrain into the MR2? It was quite surprising to me that Toyota didn't even try.

My guess is because they were killing the MR2 off.