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Old 05-13-2020, 04:24 PM   #11 (permalink)
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Is that nationwide? I haven't bought one,so I don't know. I've only bought one new car in my life,back in 1984.I don't remember being stung like that,or are they just discriminating against EVs? That would make sense here in Texas,where the government,at all levels 'ARE' the oil industry,and gas-guzzler makers, and might not look forward to reduced petroleum revenue.
Thankfully no it isn’t

That is a specific county
title = 2.5x registration charges (EV fee is apart of the registration charge)
so counties with higher taxes like wheel tax tend to pay more.


You really need to dig into your local DMV to determine what the taxes are for hybrid/PHEV/ BEV in your area.
For some reason “Everybody is doing it” is good enough reason
even though there is no rational need or reason for them to do so.

Only good thing in this area
is my antique BEV is registration exempt, NEV and 3 wheel. BEVs are $24 biannually but that blasted title fee can still suck depending on the specific vehicle identifier.

Quite unfortunate that we the US are the only country in the world that feels we need to tax the crap out of a plug in or even a non-plug in hybrid, the law in my state is actually illegal and violates equal protection laws but nobody wants to push the legal problem to get it overturned.

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Old 05-13-2020, 04:34 PM   #12 (permalink)
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Thankfully no it isn’t

That is a specific county
title = 2.5x registration charges (EV fee is apart of the registration charge)
so counties with higher taxes like wheel tax tend to pay more.


You really need to dig into your local DMV to determine what the taxes are for hybrid/PHEV/ BEV in your area.
For some reason “Everybody is doing it” is good enough reason
even though there is no rational need or reason for them to do so.

Only good thing in this area
is my antique BEV is registration exempt, NEV and 3 wheel. BEVs are $24 biannually but that blasted title fee can still suck depending on the specific vehicle identifier.

Quite unfortunate that we the US are the only country in the world that feels we need to tax the crap out of a plug in or even a non-plug in hybrid, the law in my state is actually illegal and violates equal protection laws but nobody wants to push the legal problem to get it overturned.
Wow! And I thought we had anti sodomy laws in the country.
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Old 05-13-2020, 04:35 PM   #13 (permalink)
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I don't think Texas cares about hybrids and electrics enough to slap additional taxes on them.

When new mexico takes in 1.1 billion dollars in oil and gas tax revenue and then taxes electric and hybrid vehicles you would think its some kind of anti electric vehicle red state like texas, even though Texas doesn't punish hybrids or electrics and I don't think they have ever even introduced a bill to do so.
The additional ev and hybrid tax was expected to pass here in new mexico. I think they just didn't vote on it, or it would have.
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Taxing electric vehicles at double the normal rate or an additional $100 is sodomy.
But I guess it's ok as long as the state is the one dishing it out
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Is that nationwide? I haven't bought one,so I don't know. I've only bought one new car in my life,back in 1984.I don't remember being stung like that,or are they just discriminating against EVs? That would make sense here in Texas,where the government,at all levels 'ARE' the oil industry,and gas-guzzler makers, and might not look forward to reduced petroleum revenue.
Nope. Not nationwide. The National Council of State Legislatures says in 2019 that the map looked like this:



These states Alabama, California, Illinois, Iowa, Kansas, Ohio, Oregon and Utah appear to have added BEV fees in 2020, according to the Associated Press.
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Registration is nothing in the scheme of vehicle ownership. Not sure why people even mention it. #1 is depreciation, #2 is fuel, #3 is maintenance, #4 is insurance...
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These states Alabama, California, Illinois, Iowa, Kansas, Ohio, Oregon and Utah appear to have added BEV fees in 2020, according to the Associated Press.
I didn't notice they added BEV/PHEV fees. 3 year phase in started Jan 2020, $65 year one BEV, $32.50 PHEV, $97.50/48.75 starting Jan 2021, $130/65 Jan 2022.

Their example a 2019 BEV registration will be $496 in 2022. If you bought a new one in 2022 and owned it for 7 years $3472 in registration fees.

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Quite unfortunate that we the US are the only country in the world that feels we need to tax the crap out of a plug in or even a non-plug in hybrid
Even though I wouldn't expect the U.S. to embrace the pro-hybrid bandwagon, it's quite surprising that hybrids may be overtaxed. It's actually more surprising than the fact that Toyota now only sells hybrid versions of the Corolla in some African countries such as Morocco.
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How are hybrids overtaxed? Is there evidence that hybrid owners are paying more in taxes than their inefficient counterparts?

As I've consistently maintained, it was a dumb idea from the beginning to fund critical infrastructure with price per gallon taxes. It should be budgeted and collected like any other government department.

Vehicle registration should recover only the amount needed to keep a record of who owns what. That should be, what, $1 per year?

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