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Old 05-14-2019, 06:47 PM   #21 (permalink)
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Plus, you have to think. Besides being smooth talkers, most politicians usually aren't very qualified to vote on most topics... But they do it. And we pay them. And we smile anyways.
I agree with everything you said. But--what are my options here (as an individual)? Sure, vote; but of the half of us who are eligible to vote and actually get off the couch and do it, half think one thing and the other half another, and the politicians in power stay, by and large, in power. Tar and feathers, sure, or armed insurrection--but then I'll be arrested, prosecuted, and never heard from again if I'm not shot by the police to begin with. Since I have a vested interest in remaining alive, I'm not keen on that unless things get really, really bad and it becomes an attractive alternative.

I feel like smiling is just the coping mechanism most people have landed on.

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Old 05-15-2019, 08:28 AM   #22 (permalink)
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I agree with everything you said. But--what are my options here (as an individual)? Sure, vote; but of the half of us who are eligible to vote and actually get off the couch and do it, half think one thing and the other half another, and the politicians in power stay, by and large, in power. Tar and feathers, sure, or armed insurrection--but then I'll be arrested, prosecuted, and never heard from again if I'm not shot by the police to begin with. Since I have a vested interest in remaining alive, I'm not keen on that unless things get really, really bad and it becomes an attractive alternative.

I feel like smiling is just the coping mechanism most people have landed on.
Pretty much lol
We are too poor to have a voice. I like being alive as well so I just roll with it and have learned to expect not much usefullness from the government. I guess what keeps me going is how much worse it could be if I lived in the socialist republic of europe,
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I guess the politicians don't care or aren't worried about the whole CO2 thing.
Only care about that $.
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I imagine this further doesn't help the poor either.
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Merkley's an idiot. We elect idiots, we get what we deserve.

If I were to draw up a state constitution, it would include a requirement that anyone running for congress pass an economics 101 final exam since every action they make affects the economy.
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I guess the politicians don't care or aren't worried about the whole CO2 thing.
Only care about that $.
Technically in Illinois, a Prius has 1/2 the emissions of a Tesla.
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Merkley's an idiot. We elect idiots, we get what we deserve.

If I were to draw up a state constitution, it would include a requirement that anyone running for congress pass an economics 101 final exam since every action they make affects the economy.
I'm starting to think it needs to be an engineering degree, but I doubt that would help either. A lot of the people I know from school (all of us in engineering) who were very book smart weren't very good at the common sense area. They didn't do as well as we thought after school (besides a couple that ended up at the big names) either.

We are going to have to get started on drafting this common sense entrance exam.
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Illinois did give then $4000 up front....
That rebate expired in 2016 and it applied to all alternative fuel vehicles not just EVs. (Electric, E85, B20, natural gas, propane, and hydrogen fueled vehicles)

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