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Old 09-12-2017, 11:30 AM   #151 (permalink)
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3rd fill: 45 MPG

45.1 MPG US = 5.2 L/100 km

From just under the 1/2 mark, clicked off until I could see fuel in the neck, like last time.

More mods!

Previously done: 50 PSI; AC/PS belt delete; partial grille block; passenger mirror delete; front license plate relocated.

More mods added during the last tank: MPGuino; full front air dam; LRR Dunlop Enasaves on front wheels; driver's side mirror delete; synth 5w30 oil change.

Coming soon: timing advance; wheel discs; test rolling resistance of Enasaves vs. the tires it came with before changing the rears.

I swear I'm going to start a mods thread.

Driving style: same as last tank. Weather got cooler though.

MPGuino fail: I couldn't calibrate the MPGuino -- it keeps randomly freezing/resetting and losing the tank data. It's still extremely useful to have onboard for trip-by-trip numbers though.

And based on trip numbers vs. this tank result, it's dialled in reasonably closely.

THANKS, AntiochOG for sending me your Miata MPGuino settings.

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Old 09-12-2017, 01:27 PM   #152 (permalink)
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Maybe you could log MPG vs. TEMP data throughout the year to see what "curve" you get?
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Old 09-12-2017, 04:50 PM   #153 (permalink)
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Can you adjust the timing? There's no distributor to rotate...
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Old 09-12-2017, 05:16 PM   #154 (permalink)
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Yes! The Camshaft Angle Sensor angle controls timing.

See: https://www.miata.net/garage/ignition.html#timing
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Old 09-13-2017, 10:34 AM   #155 (permalink)
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re-gearing

Last night: so I couldn't for the life of me locate the timing mark on my crank pulley -- it's a TINY engraving, and the accompanying paint mark disappeared long ago.

So instead I changed my gearing...



That's a 15 inch Civic rim that my neighbour had laying around. Tire size is 185/65R15, the same width but larger diameter than the factory 185/60R14 tires. I've got them on the rear axle only.

RPM difference @ 80 km/h (50 mph):
  • OEM: 2587 RPM
  • NEW: 2404 RPM

Difference in rolling resistance? Unknown!

Difference in aero drag? Unknown! (It raised the rear of the car by about 3/4 inch).

Difference in rotational weight? Unknown!

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Back to timing... I did end up finding the wee timing mark this morning using the "find TDC with a screwdriver through the spark plug hole resting on top of the #1 piston" method. So I'll get to advancing the timing soon enough.
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Old 09-15-2017, 02:43 PM   #156 (permalink)
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aero-hiding the re-gearing



Difference in aero drag? Still unknown... but improved!

Re-used the 15 inch wheel discs I saved from my 2007 Honda Civic former winter beater, and which also spent some time on my 2004 Prius winter beater.

I need to make up a pair to cover the factory 14 inch wheels on the front.

I swear I'm going to start a mods thread some time.

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If the fuel gauge and the odometer can be trusted, the car is on its best tank yet: 46+ ?? More mods than last tank, plus the weather turned warm again. We'll know soon.
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Old 09-15-2017, 10:56 PM   #157 (permalink)
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Old 09-16-2017, 11:06 AM   #158 (permalink)
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Rwd and ecomoding..my ideal automotive lust..
I had a great time with my lightweight BMW,having a blast on the twisty roads and ecodriving everywhere else.
Averaging 36 mpg and a pair of rear tyres every 6 months...
Enjoy it!
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I would love to see what you could do with a 3.63 rear end.

5-speed with your current gear (I'm assuming a 4.3) = 2404 at 50.

5-speed with 3.63 = 2000 at 50.

Of course the cost would never outweigh the gains. It's 1200 for an assembled 3.63.
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$1200! That's more than I have in the car. I do know a guy with the next-gen Miata from mine, and he autocrosses it. His has a slightly taller rear end, so I suggested we swap. But his is a LSD and he didn't think mine was. So, no go. Sad.

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having a blast on the twisty roads and ecodriving everywhere else.
I'm definitely enjoying driving without brakes MUCH more than in my Firefly.

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