Go Back   EcoModder Forum > EcoModding > Aerodynamics
Register Now
 Register Now
 

Reply  Post New Thread
 
Submit Tools LinkBack Thread Tools
Old 02-14-2009, 03:15 PM   #1 (permalink)
Master EcoModder
 
Join Date: Aug 2008
Location: South Dakota
Posts: 460

WonderWagon - '94 Ford Escort LX
Last 3: 51.52 mpg (US)

DaBluOne - '99 Ford Escort SE
90 day: 48.97 mpg (US)

DaRedOne - '99 Ford Escort ZX2 Hot
Thanks: 0
Thanked 15 Times in 4 Posts
Index of Phil Knox Aerodynamics Seminars & Mod-data lists

Over a periods of months, Phil Knox (aerohead) posted:
  • A series of brief Aerodynamics/Aero-mod Seminars
  • A series of Lists of Cd change for various mods.
Unfortunately, the thread titles weren't a 100% consistent, so it's not 100% convenient to track them all down.
Here are links to the ones I've found. (If you have links to other's please let me know.)

Aerodynamics Seminars:
  1. http://ecomodder.com/forum/showthrea....html#post7289
  2. http://ecomodder.com/forum/showthrea....html#post7295
  3. http://ecomodder.com/forum/showthrea....html#post7299
  4. http://ecomodder.com/forum/showthrea...01Aerodynamics
  5. http://ecomodder.com/forum/showthrea....html#post7307
  6. http://ecomodder.com/forum/showthrea....html#post7471

Mod-data Lists: The Relative Value of Various Aero-Mods
  1. Papers Quantifying "the difference between drag contributions for all body elements."
    Not a thread
    post #15 in the list-aero-mods-you-can-do-your-vehicle STICKY
  2. Data for Nose Jobs and Hood/Cowl"]Mods-data: Nose Jobs and Hood/Cowl
    Not a thread
    posts #23 & #24 in the list-aero-mods-you-can-do-your-vehicle STICKY
  3. Mods-data: Surface Drag
  4. http://ecomodder.com/forum/showthrea...html#post28158
  5. http://ecomodder.com/forum/showthrea...html#post28176
  6. http://ecomodder.com/forum/showthrea...html#post29811
  7. http://ecomodder.com/forum/showthrea...html#post29996
  8. http://ecomodder.com/forum/showthrea...html#post30007
  9. http://ecomodder.com/forum/showthrea...html#post32424
  10. http://ecomodder.com/forum/showthrea...html#post32440
  11. http://ecomodder.com/forum/showthrea...html#post39302

Large Truck Aerodynamics:
  1. http://ecomodder.com/forum/showthrea...html#post88918
  2. http://ecomodder.com/forum/showthrea...html#post88931

Other Aerodynamics:


Last edited by TestDrive; 03-14-2009 at 02:20 AM.. Reason: Added Links
  Reply With Quote
The Following 10 Users Say Thank You to TestDrive For This Useful Post:
animated_zombie (05-29-2010), ausias (11-08-2011), briantrice (11-25-2016), Cd (09-22-2009), landsailor (06-06-2011), mikeyjd (08-30-2013), NachtRitter (02-01-2010), Piwoslaw (01-30-2010), TOOQIKK (02-01-2011), UltArc (05-24-2013)
Alt Today
Popular topics

Other popular topics in this forum...

   
Old 02-14-2009, 03:38 PM   #2 (permalink)
Batman Junior
 
MetroMPG's Avatar
 
Join Date: Nov 2007
Location: 1000 Islands, Ontario, Canada
Posts: 22,513

Blackfly - '98 Geo Metro
Team Metro
Last 3: 70.09 mpg (US)

MPGiata - '90 Mazda Miata
90 day: 52.71 mpg (US)

Even Fancier Metro - '14 Mitsubishi Mirage top spec
90 day: 70.75 mpg (US)

Appliance car - '14 Mitsubishi Mirage ES (base)
90 day: 60.16 mpg (US)
Thanks: 4,058
Thanked 6,957 Times in 3,602 Posts
TestDrive - THANKS for putting this together. Great idea.

I'm going to add your index to each of the seminars to make them easier to navigate through as a package.
__________________
Project MPGiata! Mods for getting 50+ MPG from a 1990 Miata
Honda mods: Ecomodding my $800 Honda Fit 5-speed beater
Mitsu mods: 70 MPG in my ecomodded, dirt cheap, 3-cylinder Mirage.
Ecodriving test: Manual vs. automatic transmission MPG showdown



EcoModder
has launched a forum for the efficient new Mitsubishi Mirage
www.MetroMPG.com - fuel efficiency info for Geo Metro owners
www.ForkenSwift.com - electric car conversion on a beer budget
  Reply With Quote
Old 02-14-2009, 04:03 PM   #3 (permalink)
Master EcoModder
 
Join Date: Aug 2008
Location: South Dakota
Posts: 460

WonderWagon - '94 Ford Escort LX
Last 3: 51.52 mpg (US)

DaBluOne - '99 Ford Escort SE
90 day: 48.97 mpg (US)

DaRedOne - '99 Ford Escort ZX2 Hot
Thanks: 0
Thanked 15 Times in 4 Posts
Quote:
Originally Posted by MetroMPG View Post
I'm going to add your index to each of the seminars tp make them easier to navigate through as a package. Right now.
Cool.
Much better than having the list in yet another thread.

Would be cooler still, if there were a tool to automate it.
Eg. Suppose that a week from now Phil decides to add yet another seminar to the series. Wouldn't it be cool if there were an "Add a Chapter" button that would start a new thread and update the list in all of the threads.

Of course it would most like be a nightmare to implement (if not just plain impossible), so not really a request. Just chasing rainbows. Sigh.
  Reply With Quote
Old 02-14-2009, 04:16 PM   #4 (permalink)
Batman Junior
 
MetroMPG's Avatar
 
Join Date: Nov 2007
Location: 1000 Islands, Ontario, Canada
Posts: 22,513

Blackfly - '98 Geo Metro
Team Metro
Last 3: 70.09 mpg (US)

MPGiata - '90 Mazda Miata
90 day: 52.71 mpg (US)

Even Fancier Metro - '14 Mitsubishi Mirage top spec
90 day: 70.75 mpg (US)

Appliance car - '14 Mitsubishi Mirage ES (base)
90 day: 60.16 mpg (US)
Thanks: 4,058
Thanked 6,957 Times in 3,602 Posts
The forum isn't really designed to work like that, unfortunately...

But a workaround would be if Phil came back to THIS thread to remind us/me to update the index if he posts something new that should be in it.
__________________
Project MPGiata! Mods for getting 50+ MPG from a 1990 Miata
Honda mods: Ecomodding my $800 Honda Fit 5-speed beater
Mitsu mods: 70 MPG in my ecomodded, dirt cheap, 3-cylinder Mirage.
Ecodriving test: Manual vs. automatic transmission MPG showdown



EcoModder
has launched a forum for the efficient new Mitsubishi Mirage
www.MetroMPG.com - fuel efficiency info for Geo Metro owners
www.ForkenSwift.com - electric car conversion on a beer budget
  Reply With Quote
Old 02-14-2009, 04:49 PM   #5 (permalink)
Batman Junior
 
MetroMPG's Avatar
 
Join Date: Nov 2007
Location: 1000 Islands, Ontario, Canada
Posts: 22,513

Blackfly - '98 Geo Metro
Team Metro
Last 3: 70.09 mpg (US)

MPGiata - '90 Mazda Miata
90 day: 52.71 mpg (US)

Even Fancier Metro - '14 Mitsubishi Mirage top spec
90 day: 70.75 mpg (US)

Appliance car - '14 Mitsubishi Mirage ES (base)
90 day: 60.16 mpg (US)
Thanks: 4,058
Thanked 6,957 Times in 3,602 Posts
Changed my mind: in the event the index gets updated/expanded, it's better to link from the individual articles back here. Otherwise, I need to update every article's index each time a change is made. More work = bad.

So I've added a prominent up-top link to this index in each installment.
__________________
Project MPGiata! Mods for getting 50+ MPG from a 1990 Miata
Honda mods: Ecomodding my $800 Honda Fit 5-speed beater
Mitsu mods: 70 MPG in my ecomodded, dirt cheap, 3-cylinder Mirage.
Ecodriving test: Manual vs. automatic transmission MPG showdown



EcoModder
has launched a forum for the efficient new Mitsubishi Mirage
www.MetroMPG.com - fuel efficiency info for Geo Metro owners
www.ForkenSwift.com - electric car conversion on a beer budget
  Reply With Quote
Old 02-14-2009, 05:04 PM   #6 (permalink)
Master EcoModder
 
Join Date: Aug 2008
Location: South Dakota
Posts: 460

WonderWagon - '94 Ford Escort LX
Last 3: 51.52 mpg (US)

DaBluOne - '99 Ford Escort SE
90 day: 48.97 mpg (US)

DaRedOne - '99 Ford Escort ZX2 Hot
Thanks: 0
Thanked 15 Times in 4 Posts
Quote:
Originally Posted by MetroMPG View Post
Otherwise, I need to update every article's index each time a change is made. More work = bad.

So I'm added a prominent up-top link to this index in each installment.
Easier to maintain - and very nearly as convinent.

Seems I've conflated the seminars with his mod-data lists.
Will edit the OP so there are two lists.
Anyway to edit this thread's title???

Last edited by TestDrive; 02-14-2009 at 05:32 PM..
  Reply With Quote
Old 02-14-2009, 06:58 PM   #7 (permalink)
Batman Junior
 
MetroMPG's Avatar
 
Join Date: Nov 2007
Location: 1000 Islands, Ontario, Canada
Posts: 22,513

Blackfly - '98 Geo Metro
Team Metro
Last 3: 70.09 mpg (US)

MPGiata - '90 Mazda Miata
90 day: 52.71 mpg (US)

Even Fancier Metro - '14 Mitsubishi Mirage top spec
90 day: 70.75 mpg (US)

Appliance car - '14 Mitsubishi Mirage ES (base)
90 day: 60.16 mpg (US)
Thanks: 4,058
Thanked 6,957 Times in 3,602 Posts
Looking better and better. I've updated the thread title and made it a sticky. Look good?

And because I'm the type of person who takes a ridiculously long time to pack stuff in newspaper (because I find myself reading instead of packing), I also just re-read (and cleaned up formatting in some of) Phil's posts.

What a wealth of data - thanks, Phil! I knew it was good stuff as I was seeing the bits and pieces as they were posted, but collectively it's a fantastic resource and the index makes it way more accessible. Nice, nice, nice.
__________________
Project MPGiata! Mods for getting 50+ MPG from a 1990 Miata
Honda mods: Ecomodding my $800 Honda Fit 5-speed beater
Mitsu mods: 70 MPG in my ecomodded, dirt cheap, 3-cylinder Mirage.
Ecodriving test: Manual vs. automatic transmission MPG showdown



EcoModder
has launched a forum for the efficient new Mitsubishi Mirage
www.MetroMPG.com - fuel efficiency info for Geo Metro owners
www.ForkenSwift.com - electric car conversion on a beer budget
  Reply With Quote
The Following User Says Thank You to MetroMPG For This Useful Post:
mikeyjd (08-30-2013)
Old 02-14-2009, 07:34 PM   #8 (permalink)
Master EcoModder
 
Join Date: Aug 2008
Location: South Dakota
Posts: 460

WonderWagon - '94 Ford Escort LX
Last 3: 51.52 mpg (US)

DaBluOne - '99 Ford Escort SE
90 day: 48.97 mpg (US)

DaRedOne - '99 Ford Escort ZX2 Hot
Thanks: 0
Thanked 15 Times in 4 Posts
Quote:
Originally Posted by MetroMPG View Post
What a wealth of data - thanks, Phil! I knew it was good stuff as I was seeing the bits and pieces as they were posted, but collectively it's a fantastic resource
Sure wish I could track down the first two mod-data threads. Tried every way I could think of, but nothing gets me there.

If you read this Phil, do you have any idea when you posted those? Or the thread title or anything?

In any case thanks again for all of the work you put into those posts. They are a great resource.
  Reply With Quote
Old 02-28-2009, 03:43 PM   #9 (permalink)
Master EcoModder
 
aerohead's Avatar
 
Join Date: Jan 2008
Location: Sanger,Texas,U.S.A.
Posts: 15,852
Thanks: 23,907
Thanked 7,199 Times in 4,637 Posts
where?

Quote:
Originally Posted by TestDrive View Post
Sure wish I could track down the first two mod-data threads. Tried every way I could think of, but nothing gets me there.

If you read this Phil, do you have any idea when you posted those? Or the thread title or anything?

In any case thanks again for all of the work you put into those posts. They are a great resource.
I'll root around and see if I can find 'em.I appreciate everyone watching my back! As new members come on board,it's hard to acquaint them with things buried deep in past pages.What you all are doing will really help get everyone on the same page sooner.Super-big thumbs-up!
  Reply With Quote
Old 02-28-2009, 04:01 PM   #10 (permalink)
Master EcoModder
 
aerohead's Avatar
 
Join Date: Jan 2008
Location: Sanger,Texas,U.S.A.
Posts: 15,852
Thanks: 23,907
Thanked 7,199 Times in 4,637 Posts
I think I found them

I went into the second sticky and I think it's page 2,Randy the hack asked for a breakdown on aero mods.The first two aero- mod installments follow his request but I didn't number them.One is for "hood/cowl",let me chck on the first,I've already forgot.Don't get old! Let me check it again.

  Reply With Quote
Reply  Post New Thread


Thread Tools


Similar Threads
Thread Thread Starter Forum Replies Last Post
Aerodynamics Seminar #2 - by Phil Knox MetroMPG Aerodynamics 2 05-10-2013 05:34 PM
Aerodynamics Seminar # 6 - by Phil Knox MetroMPG Aerodynamics 24 09-08-2012 11:18 PM
Aerodynamics Seminar #1 - by Phil Knox MetroMPG Aerodynamics 7 08-08-2012 06:00 PM
Aerodynamics Seminar # 5 - by Phil Knox MetroMPG Aerodynamics 4 01-29-2008 01:41 PM
Aerodynamics Seminar # 4 - by Phil Knox MetroMPG Aerodynamics 0 01-28-2008 08:36 PM



Powered by vBulletin® Version 3.8.11
Copyright ©2000 - 2024, vBulletin Solutions Inc.
Content Relevant URLs by vBSEO 3.5.2
All content copyright EcoModder.com