Interesting Aerodynamic Cars (Mike Vetter's ETV, also Avion)

[Arragonis]

Originally Posted by Big Dave

Just getting a Peugeot diesel to run at all is remarkable.

Don't understand - Peugeot sell as many Diesels as VW.

[AJI]

Originally Posted by Big Dave

Just getting a Peugeot diesel to run at all is remarkable.

Peugeot have made some of the most reliable diesels of any manufacturer in the past. Non-turbo ones especially, it's not unknown to have several hundred thousand miles from them with absolutely no troubles. Not far behind old Mercedes diesels in that respect.

[euromodder]

Originally Posted by AJI

Peugeot have made some of the most reliable diesels of any manufacturer in the past. Non-turbo ones especially, it's not unknown to have several hundred thousand miles from them with absolutely no troubles.

The non-turbo diesels are a thing of the past.
They're all blown now - but still manage to suck.

Having owned one straight Peugeot and owning a Peugeot-powered Volvo, I really can not and will not vouch for their reliability, quite to the contrary. Despite proper - and often expensive - dealer maintenance, engine related problems keep popping up.

I won't buy any car with PSA (Peugeot - Citroen) components anymore.

[Red_Liner740]

Originally Posted by euromodder

...and owning a Peugeot-powered Volvo

are your referring to the PRV V6 engine that came in the 760 models?

in that case yes, that was a horrible engine with too small of oil passages that would grenade the motor if clogged. But then again, that engine was made in co-operation with Volvo and Renault, and the famous Delorean used it as well...

shame really.

[NeilBlanchard]

Aerodynamics, folks!

[tjts1]

The current E class coupe (really a C class in disguise) 0.24 CD


Their goal is to reach 0.20 by 2013. Probably the next C class which should look a lot like the F800

http://www.autocar.co.uk/News/NewsAr...llCars/239826/

[Arragonis]

Originally Posted by euromodder

The non-turbo diesels are a thing of the past.
They're all blown now - but still manage to suck.

Having owned one straight Peugeot and owning a Peugeot-powered Volvo, I really can not and will not vouch for their reliability, quite to the contrary. Despite proper - and often expensive - dealer maintenance, engine related problems keep popping up.

I won't buy any car with PSA (Peugeot - Citroen) components anymore.

Euro - Doesn't the V50 have a PSA HDI ?

However I've highlighted your problem above. Peugeot dealers are second only to Volvo ones for dishonesty and Alfa Romeo ones for just being plain useless. Find a Bosch service centre and they can sort anything in one go.

[jtbo]

There is large straight shape at sides of those Mercedes cars, what purpose that shape does serve in aero?

[euromodder]

Originally Posted by Arragonis

Euro - Doesn't the V50 have a PSA HDI ?

Yes, and that's why any future car I'll buy won't have PSA components in it.

Originally Posted by jtbo

There is large straight shape at sides of those Mercedes cars, what purpose that shape does serve in aero?

Design feature.

On the F800 there's a small air scoop in front of the rear wheels.


On the E coupe the scoop is gone, but the design line has remained.

[Arragonis]

I was revisiting some old car stuff I read about a few years ago, one of which was the Jensen 541/R. This had an Austin Limo engine (4 litre I6) and a quite an advanced (for the time) aero body made from glass fibre.

The interesting aspect is the grill block which could be opened and closed from the driver's seat via a lever - Closed = cd 0.36



Open = cd 0.39



These cd's aren't impressive now but this was the mid-1950s and in reality they were after MPH and not MPG although as standard this car had drum brakes so that wasn't such a clever idea... Later ones had a Chrysler V8, and disk brakes were an option which was pretty much always specified.