Go Back   EcoModder Forum > EcoModding > Aerodynamics
Register Now
 Register Now
 

Reply  Post New Thread
 
Submit Tools LinkBack Thread Tools
Old 05-13-2016, 08:08 AM   #1991 (permalink)
Permanent Lurker
 
seifrob's Avatar
 
Join Date: May 2011
Location: Czechoslovakia (sort of), Europe
Posts: 348

Dáčenka - '10 Dacia / Renault Logan MCV 1.5 dCi (X90 k9k)
90 day: 47.08 mpg (US)
Thanks: 129
Thanked 198 Times in 92 Posts
Tatra 603 B5

I don´t know if this is the right thread, but still:

Tatra 603 - air cooled rear V8 engine, well known here. This Tatra is interesting because of its ejector cooling (exhaust gas augmented). Article is only in Czech (sorry), but it says this allowed to save 20 hp on cooling vents.




source of the images: auto.idnes.cz

Article (in czech): auto.idnes.cz,
Photo-gallery (auto.idnes.cz)

video (in czech, sorry) -

  Reply With Quote
The Following 5 Users Say Thank You to seifrob For This Useful Post:
aerohead (05-14-2016), Cd (05-13-2016), CFECO (05-13-2016), freebeard (05-13-2016), NeilBlanchard (05-13-2016)
Alt Today
Popular topics

Other popular topics in this forum...

   
Old 05-13-2016, 08:56 AM   #1992 (permalink)
Thalmaturge
 
Join Date: Mar 2011
Location: The edge of nowhere
Posts: 1,167

Spicy Italian - '13 Fiat 500 Abarth

eBike - '94 Trek Mountain Track 820

CHONK - '18 Honda Clarity
Thanks: 769
Thanked 645 Times in 431 Posts
Quote:
Originally Posted by gafhj View Post
Cool, but shame on the way they did lights and air-con. And front license plate. Also, the front wheel arches are quite bad.
What plane is it?
Looks like a 727 nose to me:

Boeing 727

Right down to the nosecone attachment point, the double horizontal striations, those two protruding... sensors?, and the double "eyebrow" windows.

But it looks to me like they chopped it short just behind the windows, then stuck it to the body of a smaller jet (just look at the ugly aero transition between the nose area and the body).
  Reply With Quote
Old 05-13-2016, 03:53 PM   #1993 (permalink)
CFECO
 
CFECO's Avatar
 
Join Date: May 2008
Location: Vail, AZ.
Posts: 552

X-Car - '11 Homemade 2+2

Velbly1 - '17 Toyota Camery XSE
90 day: 29 mpg (US)

Velbly2 - '13 Toyota Tundra
90 day: 18.03 mpg (US)
Thanks: 174
Thanked 60 Times in 56 Posts
The Tatra 603...My what big Fart-cans you have! Actually a very cool car and a beautiful sound!
  Reply With Quote
The Following 2 Users Say Thank You to CFECO For This Useful Post:
Cd (05-13-2016), seifrob (05-16-2016)
Old 05-13-2016, 05:00 PM   #1994 (permalink)
Thalmaturge
 
Join Date: Mar 2011
Location: The edge of nowhere
Posts: 1,167

Spicy Italian - '13 Fiat 500 Abarth

eBike - '94 Trek Mountain Track 820

CHONK - '18 Honda Clarity
Thanks: 769
Thanked 645 Times in 431 Posts
That's a neat cooling system.

As I understand it, fresh air is drawn from the top of the engine through each bank of finned cylinders, and blown out those two huge trumpet pipes.

Inside the middle of each pipe is the exhaust outlet from each bank of 4 cylinders that propels the air around it basically like the inverse of one of those dyson airblade fans... (high speed exhaust stream in the middle instead of around the outside blowing into a venturi).

Neat for a race car, but I wouldn't want to idle it in traffic... airflow will fall precipitously below a certain threshold and I imagine there's not much cooling effect at all at idle.
  Reply With Quote
Old 05-13-2016, 05:22 PM   #1995 (permalink)
Permanent Lurker
 
seifrob's Avatar
 
Join Date: May 2011
Location: Czechoslovakia (sort of), Europe
Posts: 348

Dáčenka - '10 Dacia / Renault Logan MCV 1.5 dCi (X90 k9k)
90 day: 47.08 mpg (US)
Thanks: 129
Thanked 198 Times in 92 Posts
Thumbs up

Yup, you are right.
IMHO it was probably sufficient because this car was driven in normal traffic (well, normal for the sixties) so I assume it was built accordingly. Besides volume of sucked air seems to be proportional to rpm so you can floor it if you need more cooling
But, I am not an engineer.
I agree it is not practical though. No muffler, 105 dB at cruise speed. Police would love it for sure.

Last edited by seifrob; 05-13-2016 at 05:52 PM.. Reason: clarification
  Reply With Quote
Old 05-13-2016, 06:40 PM   #1996 (permalink)
Cd
Ultimate Fail
 
Cd's Avatar
 
Join Date: Feb 2008
Location: Austin,Texas
Posts: 3,585
Thanks: 2,872
Thanked 1,121 Times in 679 Posts


Looks very much like an early Barracuda. That engine is a hemi too, correct ?
  Reply With Quote
Old 05-13-2016, 11:32 PM   #1997 (permalink)
Master EcoModder
 
freebeard's Avatar
 
Join Date: Aug 2012
Location: northwest of normal
Posts: 28,715
Thanks: 8,150
Thanked 8,929 Times in 7,372 Posts
'Popular Science & Mechanix' ran a story in the 1970s or so that had one grainy black and white picture of a Porsche race car with extractive exhaust from the 1950s. I've never seen it since, though I've tried. It's large mixers were in the rear fenders behind the wheel.

I'd like to see that set-up in the front of a bobber truck rat rod with the headers angle up and out at 45°.

Cd -- It reminds me of A Series of Unfortunate Events.


http://currentconfig.com/2005/12/22/lemony-snickets-a-series-of-unfortunate-events/

I've always liked Barracuda. Especially George Poteet's Blowfish:


http://www.memphisrodders.com/files/3e2f5bc5fc7c10a90f0a74afc8b80cfb-46.html
  Reply With Quote
The Following User Says Thank You to freebeard For This Useful Post:
Cd (05-20-2016)
Old 05-14-2016, 12:46 AM   #1998 (permalink)
Engine-Off-Coast
 
Natalya's Avatar
 
Join Date: Apr 2016
Location: Atlanta
Posts: 564

Red 2000 Insight (2017 through 2019) - '00 Honda Insight 5MT
90 day: 64.72 mpg (US)

Red 2000 Lithium Insight (2020) - '00 Honda Insight LTO
90 day: 71.76 mpg (US)
Thanks: 224
Thanked 309 Times in 177 Posts


At 8:50 you can see how flat the underbody of the new Honda // Acura NSX is. It doesn't need coroplast panels!!
  Reply With Quote
Old 05-14-2016, 03:49 AM   #1999 (permalink)
Permanent Lurker
 
seifrob's Avatar
 
Join Date: May 2011
Location: Czechoslovakia (sort of), Europe
Posts: 348

Dáčenka - '10 Dacia / Renault Logan MCV 1.5 dCi (X90 k9k)
90 day: 47.08 mpg (US)
Thanks: 129
Thanked 198 Times in 92 Posts
Quote:
Originally Posted by freebeard View Post

Cd -- It reminds me of A Series of Unfortunate Events.


http://currentconfig.com/2005/12/22/lemony-snickets-a-series-of-unfortunate-events/
Yes, it is Tatra 603 indeed!
  Reply With Quote
The Following User Says Thank You to seifrob For This Useful Post:
Cd (05-20-2016)
Old 05-14-2016, 07:31 PM   #2000 (permalink)
Master EcoModder
 
freebeard's Avatar
 
Join Date: Aug 2012
Location: northwest of normal
Posts: 28,715
Thanks: 8,150
Thanked 8,929 Times in 7,372 Posts

goawaygarage.blogspot.com


Oh, yeah.

  Reply With Quote
Reply  Post New Thread




Similar Threads
Thread Thread Starter Forum Replies Last Post
Electric Cars Push Japan Engine Parts Makers to Crisis Mode tjts1 The Lounge 14 12-23-2012 01:47 PM
Name that Eco Car! Quiz: identify these aerodynamic production cars MetroMPG Aerodynamics 16 08-30-2009 06:24 AM



Powered by vBulletin® Version 3.8.11
Copyright ©2000 - 2024, vBulletin Solutions Inc.
Content Relevant URLs by vBSEO 3.5.2
All content copyright EcoModder.com