Interesting Aerodynamic Cars (Mike Vetter's ETV, also Avion)

[aerohead]

Originally Posted by gumby79

If the rudder section of the vertical stableiser were adjustable on the fly could they provide forward thrust like one recently that would take across wind and use it for forward assist and under the right conditions as full proposition, I couldn't find the link...

Yes,but........................................... .................................................. ....
A foil large enough to produce usable thrust would pose a stability threat at high speed.
In the late 1970s,Professor Alberto Morelli found that the 'fins' could be placed low,behind the rear wheels,controlling the center of pressure for stability,as well as acting like a wheel fairing,cutting drag.

[gumby79]

Not looking to move a 6000lbs truck down the road ... just improve the crosswind mpg because my mpgs suffer from crosswinds . The ider is to see a 1-5% gain insted of a 1-10% loss
Gumby Stay Flexible

[freebeard]

A sail large enough to move a very small cabin.



Luigi Colani also under-slung the tail fins.



1-minute cross-post. Look to your edge radiuses.

[aerohead]

Originally Posted by gumby79

Not looking to move a 6000lbs truck down the road ... just improve the crosswind mpg because my mpgs suffer from crosswinds . The ider is to see a 1-5% gain insted of a 1-10% loss
Gumby Stay Flexible

This Arrivett Brothers' streamlined dragster of 1987 boasted a lower drag in yaw,than in straight-on flow.It's one of very few cars ever analyzed.
http://bangshift.com/assets/gallerie...ls/Photo15.jpg
If you have the wealth to pursue it (and I'm talking hundreds of thousands of dollars),you could look into it.But there is no extant off-the-shelf technology which exists that can give you what you want.

[kach22i]

Wind Tunnel results - Rennlist Discussion Forums

[samwichse]

Originally Posted by aerohead

Automakers have a legal,fiduciary responsibility to pay the highest dividend to the shareholder.Selling EVs at a loss is a way to ultimately make profits.
Your retired kindergarten teacher's pension fund income likely comes from profits derived by predatory automotive and oil corporate practices.

Ok, last off topic post here, sorry.

The "legal fiduciary responsibility to maximize shareholder profit" thing seems to have been made up in the 1970's, and doesn't really exist:
http://evonomics.com/maximizing-shar...-dumbest-idea/

Sam

[aerohead]

Originally Posted by samwichse

Ok, last off topic post here, sorry.

The "legal fiduciary responsibility to maximize shareholder profit" thing seems to have been made up in the 1970's, and doesn't really exist:
http://evonomics.com/maximizing-shar...-dumbest-idea/

Sam

It's genesis probably originates from the Code of Hammurabi,1754 BC,concerning damage to property while left in the care of another.
I liked Lynn Stout's article.Thanks.
Some modern day messengers liken most CEOs to psychopaths,with no concerns beyond profits.And corporations consider that there is a shortage of psychopaths in the market,which explains their high pay (demand-pull inflation).
Around 2010,'compliance vehicles' made up a population of 700,000, in a fleet of 240,000,000 U.S. light vehicles.
If certain beneficial things are to happen,these kinds of statistics will need to stood on their head.
I applaud any affordable EV,regardless of stripe.I'd like to live long enough to see hundreds of millions of them.
My brother lives close to Fernley,NV where Elon has built his massive battery manufacturing facility.I hope to see it in September.
' appreciate your insights.

[gone-ot]

Gordon Gekko says "Greed is Good" (wink,wink)

[kach22i]

Originally Posted by aerohead

Some modern day messengers liken most CEOs to psychopaths,with no concerns beyond profits.And corporations consider that there is a shortage of psychopaths in the market,which explains their high pay (demand-pull inflation).

Thanks, I needed the laugh.

EDIT
http://forums.pelicanparts.com/off-t...ures-1709.html

[NeilBlanchard]

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