Go Back   EcoModder Forum > EcoModding > Aerodynamics
Register Now
 Register Now
 

Reply  Post New Thread
 
Submit Tools LinkBack Thread Tools
Old 06-06-2020, 05:33 PM   #3441 (permalink)
Master EcoModder
 
freebeard's Avatar
 
Join Date: Aug 2012
Location: northwest of normal
Posts: 28,715
Thanks: 8,150
Thanked 8,933 Times in 7,375 Posts
I know it doesn't have wheels, but is it worth a new thread?


https://www.motionrc.com/products/fr...5-wingspan-pnp

I was always a fan of the Republic SeaBee. This is a similar airframe. Also a fan of the Prandtl-D wing. It has washout at the wingtips to reduce or eliminate tip drag. Airliners use vertical rudderlets. This seems to be similar, with a swept back tip that prolly washes out.

__________________
.
.
Without freedom of speech we wouldn't know who all the idiots are. -- anonymous poster

____________________
.
.
Three conspiracy theorists walk into a bar --You can't say that is a coincidence.
  Reply With Quote
The Following User Says Thank You to freebeard For This Useful Post:
niky (06-09-2020)
Alt Today
Popular topics

Other popular topics in this forum...

   
Old 06-06-2020, 05:51 PM   #3442 (permalink)
EcoModding Apprentice
 
Bicycle Bob's Avatar
 
Join Date: May 2008
Location: N. Saskatchewan, CA
Posts: 1,805

Appliance White - '93 Geo Metro 4-Dr. Auto
Last 3: 42.35 mpg (US)

Stealth RV - '91 Chevy Sprint Base
Thanks: 91
Thanked 460 Times in 328 Posts
Wingtip washout is usually very hard to see, but easy to create with minor adjustments to the angle of the airfoils. After much testing, there is a small advantage shown for the "Finch tip" - a wing that tapers to a point, with a slightly swept back tip. That minimizes induced drag by pushing down gently near the wingtips, but without the wasted surface area of washout on a square or rounded tip.
__________________
There is no excuse for a land vehicle to weigh more than its average payload.
  Reply With Quote
The Following 3 Users Say Thank You to Bicycle Bob For This Useful Post:
aerohead (06-10-2020), freebeard (06-06-2020), niky (06-09-2020)
Old 06-06-2020, 07:32 PM   #3443 (permalink)
Master EcoModder
 
freebeard's Avatar
 
Join Date: Aug 2012
Location: northwest of normal
Posts: 28,715
Thanks: 8,150
Thanked 8,933 Times in 7,375 Posts
As I said, Seabee fan. The modern iteration is the Icon A5. I'm imagining something like this as a high-wing and with the sponsons pushed forward to make a [stall resistant] canard.
__________________
.
.
Without freedom of speech we wouldn't know who all the idiots are. -- anonymous poster

____________________
.
.
Three conspiracy theorists walk into a bar --You can't say that is a coincidence.
  Reply With Quote
Old 06-06-2020, 08:14 PM   #3444 (permalink)
Banned
 
Join Date: Nov 2017
Location: Australia
Posts: 2,060
Thanks: 107
Thanked 1,605 Times in 1,136 Posts
I like the tip feathers of birds that make use of the wingtip vortices to create thrust. There's an intriguing mention of it in one of the aircraft aero books I have.
  Reply With Quote
The Following User Says Thank You to JulianEdgar For This Useful Post:
freebeard (06-06-2020)
Old 06-15-2020, 01:05 PM   #3445 (permalink)
Master Ecomadman
 
arcosine's Avatar
 
Join Date: Nov 2010
Location: Chicago area
Posts: 1,156

sc1 - '98 saturn sc1
Team Saturn
90 day: 43.17 mpg (US)

Airplane Bike - '11 home built Carp line Tour

rans - '97 rans tailwind

tractor - '66 International Cub cadet 129

2002 Space Odyssey - '02 Honda Odyssey EX-L
90 day: 28.25 mpg (US)

red bug - '00 VW beetle TDI

big tractor - '66 ford 3400

red vw - '00 VW new beetle TDI
90 day: 58.42 mpg (US)

RV - '88 Winnebago LeSharo
90 day: 16.67 mpg (US)
Thanks: 20
Thanked 337 Times in 227 Posts
Delta wing:
__________________
- Tony

  Reply With Quote
The Following User Says Thank You to arcosine For This Useful Post:
aerohead (06-17-2020)
Old 06-15-2020, 11:47 PM   #3446 (permalink)
Master EcoModder
 
The Toecutter's Avatar
 
Join Date: May 2010
Location: Ghettoville, USA
Posts: 251

Rebellion - '16 KMX Framekit Custom electric velomobile
Thanks: 149
Thanked 187 Times in 112 Posts
The Nardi Giannini 750 Bisiluro sure is a strange one:

Nardi Giannini 750 Bisiluro - Land Speed Racing History
  Reply With Quote
The Following User Says Thank You to The Toecutter For This Useful Post:
aerohead (06-17-2020)
Old 06-16-2020, 12:12 AM   #3447 (permalink)
Master EcoModder
 
freebeard's Avatar
 
Join Date: Aug 2012
Location: northwest of normal
Posts: 28,715
Thanks: 8,150
Thanked 8,933 Times in 7,375 Posts
Quote:
Originally Posted by TFA
Sadly during the race it was built for, the 1955 Le Mans, the Bisiluro was literally blown off the track by the vortex kicked up by a close-passing D-Type Jaguar and sustained too much damage to continue the race.
Quote:
Originally Posted by GreenTDI
Quote:
Originally Posted by samwichse
Does this one count? When you've got a big family, but don't want the crappy gas mileage most 3 row SUVs and minivans get...
Interesting
Wonder if that long version has even better streamline!
Here's a Geo Metro configured as a race car transporter.

I forget the numbers but IIRC better than stock.
__________________
.
.
Without freedom of speech we wouldn't know who all the idiots are. -- anonymous poster

____________________
.
.
Three conspiracy theorists walk into a bar --You can't say that is a coincidence.
  Reply With Quote
The Following User Says Thank You to freebeard For This Useful Post:
aerohead (06-17-2020)
Old 06-18-2020, 09:23 PM   #3448 (permalink)
Master Ecomadman
 
arcosine's Avatar
 
Join Date: Nov 2010
Location: Chicago area
Posts: 1,156

sc1 - '98 saturn sc1
Team Saturn
90 day: 43.17 mpg (US)

Airplane Bike - '11 home built Carp line Tour

rans - '97 rans tailwind

tractor - '66 International Cub cadet 129

2002 Space Odyssey - '02 Honda Odyssey EX-L
90 day: 28.25 mpg (US)

red bug - '00 VW beetle TDI

big tractor - '66 ford 3400

red vw - '00 VW new beetle TDI
90 day: 58.42 mpg (US)

RV - '88 Winnebago LeSharo
90 day: 16.67 mpg (US)
Thanks: 20
Thanked 337 Times in 227 Posts
__________________
- Tony

  Reply With Quote
The Following User Says Thank You to arcosine For This Useful Post:
aerohead (06-19-2020)
Old 06-19-2020, 12:27 PM   #3449 (permalink)
Master EcoModder
 
aerohead's Avatar
 
Join Date: Jan 2008
Location: Sanger,Texas,U.S.A.
Posts: 16,314
Thanks: 24,440
Thanked 7,386 Times in 4,783 Posts
strange

Quote:
Originally Posted by The Toecutter View Post
The Nardi Giannini 750 Bisiluro sure is a strange one:

Nardi Giannini 750 Bisiluro - Land Speed Racing History
Around 1947? there was a 'twin-boom' Tarf, competition car which was similar in appearance and a claimed Cd 0.11 or something like that. Definitely outside the box thinking! I like it.
__________________
Photobucket album: http://s1271.photobucket.com/albums/jj622/aerohead2/
  Reply With Quote
Old 06-19-2020, 01:14 PM   #3450 (permalink)
Master EcoModder
 
freebeard's Avatar
 
Join Date: Aug 2012
Location: northwest of normal
Posts: 28,715
Thanks: 8,150
Thanked 8,933 Times in 7,375 Posts

http://www.deccanchronicle.com/16010...?gImgId=169941

OSI OSI Silver Fox prototype, 1967.

__________________
.
.
Without freedom of speech we wouldn't know who all the idiots are. -- anonymous poster

____________________
.
.
Three conspiracy theorists walk into a bar --You can't say that is a coincidence.
  Reply With Quote
The Following User Says Thank You to freebeard For This Useful Post:
aerohead (06-19-2020)
Reply  Post New Thread




Similar Threads
Thread Thread Starter Forum Replies Last Post
Electric Cars Push Japan Engine Parts Makers to Crisis Mode tjts1 The Lounge 14 12-23-2012 01:47 PM
Name that Eco Car! Quiz: identify these aerodynamic production cars MetroMPG Aerodynamics 16 08-30-2009 06:24 AM



Powered by vBulletin® Version 3.8.11
Copyright ©2000 - 2024, vBulletin Solutions Inc.
Content Relevant URLs by vBSEO 3.5.2
All content copyright EcoModder.com