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Old 08-20-2013, 03:13 AM   #711 (permalink)
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It appears that Jean Bugatti sketched, essentially, the Schlorwagen in 1935?

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Old 08-20-2013, 08:38 AM   #712 (permalink)
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Actually, that Bugatti sketch looks better than the Schlörwagen (bite my tongue!) is a couple ways: the rear wheel track is narrowed and the front is narrower, too. It would require hinged front wheel skirts, but it avoids the "extra" frontal area.

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Old 08-20-2013, 11:06 AM   #713 (permalink)
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A thread on that top car of Neil's: Miastrada
http://ecomodder.com/forum/showthrea...pe-3746-2.html

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: : PROTOTYP - PERSONEN. KRAFT. WAGEN. : :

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On the chassis of a Volkswagen this reduced weight, aerodynamically optimized prototype, consisting of riveted aluminum and fiberglass reinforced plastic (FRP) was created. This prototype was never completed.1100cc
24.5 hp115 km / h
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Old 08-20-2013, 12:39 PM   #714 (permalink)
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Here is one I found on Imgur:

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NeilBlanchard -- I prefer the Pillbug's window openings. The Bugatti is all square in the front/round in the back. And it doesn't have the vortex-inducing square edges. But Bugatti in '35 and Schlor in '39, right?

The Miastrada reminds me of this from here:

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kach22i -- Fiberglass in 1949 beats the Corvette by 4 years. Here's an interesting story.

The 1953 Renault-Based Plasticar Marquis: Fashioned For Elegance, Economy and Speed
It turns out that Plasticar of Doyleston, PA obtained an aluminum body from a French race driver, that was intended for fiberglass in volume production in 1953, but their technique resulted in too-heavy body. The French used a different fabric and went on to success.
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With great strategic marketing and business creativity, Jean Rédélé would now launch the Alpine com*pany. Officially registered on 22 June 1955, the name would become world famous in the years that followed as Rédélé developed his own glass-fibre-bodied creations.
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kach22i -- Fiberglass in 1949 beats the Corvette by 4 years. Here's an interesting story.

The 1953 Renault-Based Plasticar Marquis: Fashioned For Elegance, Economy and Speed
A great find, and a handsome car - thanks.

And a great site.

The 1937 Gougeon Streamliner Debuts


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The car in front of the Futuro capsule reminds me of this


Personally, today, I'd want a carbon-fiber monocoque in the form of a Schwimmwagen, with Class 5 off-road suspension and a Subaru rear engine 4WD drivetrain created with the reverseved ring-and-pinion from Subarugears. With hydrojets and a side opening bubble top copied from the Messerschmitt KR-200.

Actually, with a boattail and LRR tires it would look like this:


It would be parked in front of a 30' 3v geodesic dome perched 1/3 the way up a wooden Eiffel tower made by banding the tips of 5 lodgepole pine to the base of a sixth and pretensioning the bases outward.

There would be a flag flying above the vertical axis windmill.

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Saw this car on TV tonight. Not really interesting from an eco stand point, ok not at all, although it has a cd of .31-.37 One thing that caught my eye was the mirror's. The only reason for the design that I can see is aerodynamics's, 'cause they look like bug antennae, and not pleasing to my eye. Can't imagine how they keep them from vibrating beyond usefulness at 60mph let alone 230mph.


2013 Pagani Huayra




Oh, if your interested in adding one of these to your stables, your going to need to break open your piggy bank for $1.4 million (US)
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Saw this car on TV tonight. Not really interesting from an eco stand point, ok not at all, although it has a cd of .31-.37 One thing that caught my eye was the mirror's.
So why did you post it? This is the Aerodynamics sub-forum and it's certainly more on-topic than the 2-wheelers. I'm surprised the Cd is that high—given the boattailling on the cabin and the overall air management. IMHO it's tremendously interesting.

Look on YouTube for Jay Leno's Garage or the tour of the Pagani factory. Pagani is like Bugatti, every piece is a work of art. The mirrors, for instance, are shaped like a woman's eye (he's Italian}. There's nothing wrong with build quality. The technically interesting stuff that I remember:
  • carbon fiber monocoque body
  • active aerodynamics (those 4 big flaps on the front and back)
  • something about the exhaust system (or maybe that was Koenigsegg)

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