Just bought a 2014 Mirage 5-speed (got 57.4 mpg on the 70 mi. trip home)

[MetroMPG]

Originally Posted by Cobb

Nice to have your next ca lined up in the event someone takes your current baby from you.

That's how I look at it too. At the rate I drive the Firefly/Metro, it'll last another decade or two (easily!). But in the event something awful should happen to it before its time, the Mirage looks like a worthy replacement.

[MetroMPG]

Originally Posted by minispeed

I based my tire choice to get 2 Enesaves for the insight on your numbers.

Same tire (size, too) that Mitsu uses on their iMiev electric car, so we know they were probably serious about LRR specs. It'll be interesting to see a head to head comparison against the magical, mythical RE92.

[niky]

Originally Posted by Cobb

but this seems to get better mpg the faster you go?

Indicated 32-35 mpg at 100 mph... ...then suffer the heatsoak when you stop afterwards...

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That's a question... I feel like the cooling system is already on the marginal side... how is it in traffic with the partial grille block?

[Cobb]

My insight I use water wetter and a full grill block. Water stays under 200. In summer with ac on it doesnt go over 187.

[gone.2]

It's too bad the nearest Mitsu dealer is 150 miles away...

[Cobb]

Just saw the offset crash test data. Thinking Im axing this from my list and 2nd gen Fit.

[Daox]

When is the last time you crashed 1/4 of your front end into a completely rigid object? If you're crashing into buildings or trees or poles at that kind of speed, you probably shouldn't be driving.

[Cobb]

Ouch. I thought you were a programmer and we are trained to start at the end. Whats the point in selecting an eco car over another if you have other choices and the chance you or some idiot wrecks it, it costs you millions in hospital bills or even kills you vs the savings a few bucks in fuel?

I was surprised to see the prius c there too as hybrids typically do better from the bracing and weight distribution.

Ive read the fine print of my insurance, it only covers 80% of hospital stays.

[niky]

Originally Posted by Cobb

Ouch. I thought you were a programmer and we are trained to start at the end. Whats the point in selecting an eco car over another if you have other choices and the chance you or some idiot wrecks it, it costs you millions in hospital bills or even kills you vs the savings a few bucks in fuel?

I was surprised to see the prius c there too as hybrids typically do better from the bracing and weight distribution.

Ive read the fine print of my insurance, it only covers 80% of hospital stays.

What's the point in buying something that isn't an armor-plated Chevrolet Suburban?

The level of risk here is what's in question.

A "significantly greater risk", in this case, means your one-tenth-of-one-in-a-million chance of dying on the road becomes a 0.11 in a million chance. (perhaps 0.1025? 0.101? then consider the Mirage is safer, on average, than half the cars in its class... scribble scribble scribble frown... whatever! )

Statistically significant? Yes.

Worth staying up at night for? Not really. You could decrease your chances similarly by simply not being a man (statistically greater chance of having a high-speed crash), but then, that's sillier.

It's one test. The Mirage still aces the other tests. And if you happen to come upon a wall that's deadset on removing 25% of the front end of the car, you can either: a.) elect to steer away and not hit it, or b.) steer into it, and enjoy the full crash protection afforded by hitting the wall with both frame rails head on.

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The problem with all of this brouhaha is that... yes... safety is relevant... but when talking about such low levels of risk, the question is whether removing the top and bottom step on every staircase is a reasonable precaution to take.

[Fat Charlie]

Armor makes you stupid.