Kia Rio CRDi Ecodynamics 3.2L/100km EU average.

[ausias]

Originally Posted by California98Civic

How does a person import a car like this to the USA for their own use? Is it legal? In what ways is it a big expensive pain?

In Spain there are some importers that buy cars in USA some are versions of the same cars and others are not selling in Europe. Only you have to do is an homologation on vehicle inspection service ITV and some lots of Dirección General de Tráfico paperwork.

The only problem here is importing from other country of Europe a car converted to burn LPG or Natural-Gas, because even old EuroII cars will pass Euro V EEV or Euro VI test, and "we" don't want people buy a 15 years old with 240.000 miles for less than 2000€ and save 40 to 50% percent when fuelling. Petrol Stations owners and "workers", car makers (Spain is the 2nd car producer/exporter of Europe, 1st is Germany) owners and "workers" have their right to sell infinitely and earning money. Last years (before constructions bubble exploded) 16 milion of new vehicles at average price of 21000€ ($28600) were sold only in Spain, but 80 milion exported. Our population is about 39-45 milion people.

I think best will be going to federal office or inspections service and ask, what if I imported some European car? The same car in USA usually costs 50% or 30% less than in Europe. A Mustang imported 33000€ ($44000) the same usa sells at $22000. Prius 24000€ $33600.
Taxes payed for exporting a car did'nt include matricualtion or VAT maybe >20% discount on selling price will be expected, but a car importer will answer better your questions (interesting ones).
Why not buy European Hyundai Tucson aka Hyundai ix35 2.0 CRDi 136 cv DPF 5.3L/100km EU average (near 40 EPA mpg diesel)?
Why not buying European Ford Focus RS 305 bhp, +50% mpg more than Mustang V6, with 0to62mph in less 6 s., top speed of 165 mph. Or even new Ford Focus econetik diesel near 60 mpg as standard?
http://www.ford.es/Turismos/nuevofor...YmedioAmbiente

translated: Ford econetic

You could explore the paperworks world od NHTSA (we say DGT at this ahahah):
http://www.nhtsa.gov/cars/rules/import/

[Arragonis]

If they would stick that engine into the Picanto...

[brucepick]

If only they would sell the Picanto in the US...

[Arragonis]

Hands off you can have all our Leafs which we are not buying...

[320touring]

Certainly find myself being more impressed by the recent Korean offerings- the i10,i30 etc plus the C'eed representa leap forward in quality.

Coupled with the innovative tech in this thread, the Koreans could be the next Japanese in the car markets..

[ausias]

The Nissan Leafs and others EV are items not intended to sell, so we don't buy. 100Kw DIY car conversion with batteries of the same autonomy will cost around 10.000€. Who is the guy or girl who they would buy a 36000€ car that you will need to wait every 175km, a full 24KWh charge. At around 2.4€/100km this car is not even capaable of working in a big town as Taxi or cab service, some of them drive 250km or 500km a day.
We have in spain 6000€ of Federal subvention of 6000€, so 30000€ you pay in Spain, but taxes applied to that income, so more than 30000€, maybe 33000€ will cost you after discounts.

DIY Electric Car Forums Site Home

Why GM did and Opel/Vauxhall Calibra conversion to EV-1, lowered cd from 0.35 to 0.19 and first proptotypes did cost around 40000$. It's a car we will never buy even with and ICE burning H2 or Methane...

[Vekke]

Is that 3.2 liter fuel consumtion figure correct. In finland the average fuel consumtion figure is 3.6 l/100km in Kia Rio 1.1 WGT diesel?
Highway 3.3
City 3.9
Combined 3.6

So is there a 1.1 CRDi version available somewhere with 3.2 liter average?

[ausias]

Originally Posted by Vekke

Is that 3.2 liter fuel consumtion figure correct. In finland the average fuel consumtion figure is 3.6 l/100km in Kia Rio 1.1 WGT diesel?
Highway 3.3
City 3.9
Combined 3.6

So is there a 1.1 CRDi version available somewhere with 3.2 liter average?

Maybe there is not Stop % Go and ecodynamics selling in Finland because it isn't warmer enough.
Spanish catalog claims that 3.2L/100 km figure and also 85 g/km of CO2 etc all around:
http://www.bancodeimageneskia.com/ga...o_NUEVORIO.pdf
http://www.bancodeimageneskia.com/ga...s_NUEVORIO.pdf Ecodynamics is not an accessory equipment.

Maybe Basic equipment is not present in Finland with that engine.
Concept and above versions have higher fuel consumption:
KIA Rio 5p 1.1 CRDi WGT Concept ficha técnica, prestaciones, consumos, dimensiones de este coche - km77
KIA Rio 5p 1.1 CRDi WGT Basic Eco-Dynamics ficha técnica, prestaciones, consumos, dimensiones de este coche - km77

In the Spanish web of Kia they also talk about and 1.4 crdi 90 bhp ecodynamics version of 3.8 L/100km average. It's hard to find that info and the existence of the Gasoline (petrol) versions with Ecodynamics and 4.8 L/100km (1250 cc, 83 bhp) and 5.1 L/100km (1400 cc, 109 bhp). You have to click in "Motores + Info Tecnica" or "Bajo Consumo" tabs in the flash: Nuevo Kia Rio

But I only find prices of 1.1 crdi basic ecodynamics (3.2L/100km diesel) and 1.4 vti Drive with ecodynamics (I.S&G) (5.1L/100km petrol).
Buscador de precios de coches nuevos
Kia Rio, precios vehiculo Kia, imagenes automovil
It seems that the four possible Ecodynamics versions in Spain they only sell as standard these two.

A Kia dealer in Finland will answer your questions and if there is any ISG Ecodynamics pack available as optional equipment.

[euromodder]

Originally Posted by Vekke

So is there a 1.1 CRDi version available somewhere with 3.2 liter average?

Yes it is.

Actually, there's 2 versions of the new Rio 1.1L diesel.
The 3.2L/100km or 85 g/km CO2 version has a 3,647 final drive and drum brakes on the rear.
The 3.6L/100km or 94 g/km CO2 version has a 3,833 final drive and rear disk brakes.
The gearbox is the same though.

[euromodder]

Originally Posted by ausias

d 1.4 crdi 90 bhp ecodynamics version of 3.8 L/100km average. It's hard to find that info and the existence of the Gasoline (petrol) versions with Ecodynamics and 4.8 L/100km (1250 cc, 83 bhp) and 5.1 L/100km (1400 cc, 109 bhp).

All versions are in the Belgian technical specifications PDF :
http://www.kia.be/~/media/BE/Add-ons...euwe%20Rio.pdf

The fuel consumption figures depend on the trim level and the accessories fitted.

Less accessories = less fuel