Lab grown meat advances to steaks (small ones)

[redpoint5]

Salad costs more than everything because it contains no calories. It isn't food.

[All Darc]

Is that some uncle Jordan's quote, or from his daughter (who ates only meat) ???
Anyway the pyramide do not comprares only salad.

I talked with people who visited Florida, and they told me that there there is just junk foof and fast food, and normal foof, on plate, a real meal, it's a fortune. That why americans have a so poor diet, so unhealth.

I presume that if Florida average people want to eat well (health food) they need to cook it thenselfes of bring food from home (packed lunch).

Originally Posted by redpoint5

Salad costs more than everything because it contains no calories. It isn't food.

[redpoint5]

We have vegetable buffets in the States. Like a dummy I agreed to go to Sweet Tomatoes with a friend once, not knowing it was just an expensive salad bar. I ate for 90 minutes and left starving.

My anecdotal observation is that most Americans on a vegetarian diet are more overweight than the already overweight average population. I asked a friend of mine if they eat a lot of salad on their vegetarian diet, and they said no, but lots of potato chips and pastries.

We're mostly overweight from a high carb diet and sugary drinks. When you can knock back 180 calories in a few gulps and be hungry 15min later, you're set for trouble.

Anyhow, I like veggies just fine, they just aren't worth the effort to chew is the thing...

[freebeard]

I know it's off topic. I'm sorry.


https://i.maga.host/LSZ4nY7.jpg

[All Darc]

The only thing I found about vegetarians be more obese was about India.

But for USA I found vegetarians use to have, in average, lower body mass index :
https://www.huffpost.com/entry/veget...ight_n_4039441

I think some people when change to vegetarioan, after years used to eat meat, have some difficult and tends to eat more carbo. In this sense vegan meat (meat analog) would help them.
But I don't think it's the case for India, so I can't explain it. Maybe, due be a poor country, and meat be more expensive than grains, indians who don't eat meat have more money to buy larger amounts of calouries, in the form of grains.

I didn't refered to a sald buffet, when I talked about govern helping obesety, but about restaurants that are not fast food. In a good meal you can have all groops of the pyramide diet.
It's a prejudice responde like that, the sald argument, when someone talk about vegetarian or health food. Vegetarians do not eat just salads.

Originally Posted by redpoint5

We have vegetable buffets in the States. Like a dummy I agreed to go to Sweet Tomatoes with a friend once, not knowing it was just an expensive salad bar. I ate for 90 minutes and left starving.

My anecdotal observation is that most Americans on a vegetarian diet are more overweight than the already overweight average population. I asked a friend of mine if they eat a lot of salad on their vegetarian diet, and they said no, but lots of potato chips and pastries.

We're mostly overweight from a high carb diet and sugary drinks. When you can knock back 180 calories in a few gulps and be hungry 15min later, you're set for trouble.

Anyhow, I like veggies just fine, they just aren't worth the effort to chew is the thing...

[freebeard]

I'm a fan of Aydin Paladin. She does hour-long videos about psychology (lots of stock footage and statistics). Yesterday it was Liquid Smoke and Mirrors : Impossible Truth About Food

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=7hkLKJCjj3M

It get interesting at https://youtu.be/7hkLKJCjj3M?t=3055. Conclusions at https://youtu.be/7hkLKJCjj3M?t=3912

Impossible Burger has more calories and salt. Caveat Emptor.

[redpoint5]

Good stuff. I'm among the least susceptible to advertising, and sometimes it works against them. Specifically I avoid organic food because I associate it with higher price for no benefit (probably worse for the environment since it's grown at smaller economies of scale, which is part of why it costs more). My wife insists on no added hormone milk for our kid, which is the one indulgence I give her. She admits it's probably pointless. Our girl isn't going to be tall because of hormones from cows, she's going to be tall because I'm 6'2" and my wife is 6'1".

I'm the type to look at nutrition labels and make purchasing decisions based on that. Specifically I'm usually looking for the most calories per dollar since that's primarily what we're purchasing and the main reason we eat. My good fortune is that my appetite has always been in proportion to my physical activity level and muscle quantity. Since I haven't been working out in a year and a half, my weight is at an all time low.

Probably the healthiest change most people could make is to simply eat less of whatever they choose to eat. The takeaway from the video was "everything in moderation".

[Xist]

I finally started using this bread the other day:

[freebeard]

10/09/19? It must be a dry climate.

[redpoint5]

Maybe Xist freezes bread. I do. Just don't go through it fast enough.