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[snakester]

Welcome Aerosonoma. I for one would like to see some pictures of your truck mod.
UltArc, you're a mathematical wizard. You and Cowmeat make me want a 2000 Insight so bad. I'm so jealous.

[dirtydave]

welcome buddy! we have the same drivetrain.

[nimblemotors]

Well if you want cheapest, here is a Geo Metro for $750 with only 86,000 miles.
Geo Metro 45 MPG! 4 DOOR Sedan , rair model Ac 5spd CD here to LA $20

Ecomodding can be a fun hobby. My MGEO certainly was.

[darcane]

Originally Posted by UltArc

I would advise AGAINST that indy thing. IF it ever comes to fruition, 25k is a low number. After you buy the kit, you get to buy all the internals, and then assemble. Ran some quick numbers, just did a screen shot. 3k is a bit high for an Insight if you sold your truck, but wanted to make sure I wasn't being too biased on the G1. I know the fun of taking an inefficient vehicle, and making it fuel efficient, so that journey is always a blast! The only reason I even say otherwise, is that very rarely do my modifications pay for themselves. You said 140 miles per day, I inferred 5 days a week. I can send you the Excel sheet, but just a quick write up on my phone.

*Note the Insight calculations are for 50 MPG, not the easily attainable 60-70, or modified 70+. But I'd rather see you mod the truck!

Your calcs are based on 20mpg for the Sonoma. OP indicated he currently averages 28mpg w/o hypermiling (and no mods? That's not clear to me).

At 28mpg, his 2-year fuel cost is only $8400 based on your assumptions.

At his 40mpg goal, his 2-year fuel cost is only $5880 based on your assumptions.


The auto doesn't help, but I'd like to see how he does with the truck. I was fond of my old '98 S10 (2.2L/5-spd); they are good little trucks.

aerosonoma, do you have pics of your aerocap?

[UltArc]

Good call Darcane! It was late last night, my apologies. Made a few adjustments

[dirtydave]

what's the. cd of the pickup?

[BabyDiesel]

The Cd of his 96 S10 is 0.42, straight from S10forums.com

Extensive aero mods will be the bee's knees to this build.

[aerosonoma]

Alright well thank you all for your replies!So based I have done some calculations on my own and the reason I want to go with the Sonoma build is I bought it for 900 dollars, it has no rust, and I just rebuilt the engine and transmission for it. I have probably 2500 total including the price of the truck. I would rather buy a cruise eco or a tdi but if 40 or even 35 mpg is possible it will never be with it to buy a newer car if you consider car payment, higher insurance, cost of diesel, higher cost of parts, etc. S10 parts are cheap and they are easy to work on. So, I will be sticking with the Sonoma build. I should be finishing by aero cap todayactually. I'll post pictures later in the aerodynamic threads. I did it a little different than what I've seen so I'm hoping for some constructive criticism. Haha also is there any software out there to help me determine the CD after I have made my mods? I know there are lots of cfd programsb it how about some suggestions?

[dirtydave]

stay in the torque converter above 32MPH.
throttle at 80% LOD or 58 TPS.
stay in neutral as much as possible.
we do not have DFCO so hit the brakes in neutral if you need to slow down.
I have .38 cd and I'm willing to bet AC on is better than windows down but mines not working.

hopefully you have a few tips for me.

[deejaaa]

Originally Posted by dirtydave

......willing to bet AC on is better than windows down.......

i know this is still in debate but in the jetta, using UG, i see my FE go down a lot using AC. i normally don't use it and hit close to 60. using, low 50's.
driving wifes Traverse, just pulled into SD and is a lot cooler to me so i turned off the AC. watching the graph, i can see the drain AC has while using. i will try to not use it all the way to Canada.