Magnetic field separates oxygen from air/nitrogen?!?!

[Piotrsko]

Is it actually a DC field or is it electonics switching at that frequency. Aka pulsed DC? Other than hundred of voltage doublers it's gonna need magnetics which require switched field

[aerohead]

Originally Posted by Logic

Hmmm!!!
A candle flame burns higher when magnets are slightly below it, causing more O2 in the flame area..?
https://youtu.be/dX2R4hRAYMc?t=489

Perhaps, the proximity of any solid structure near the flame, simply modifies the aerodynamics of the convection current as the hot gases rise, 'boosting' the flame, a phenomena not necessarily limited to magnetic structures.
( the answer is hiding in plain view? )

[aerohead]

Originally Posted by Logic

I believe cryo processing is how the bottled oxycen one buys is made aerohead.
NOT practical or cheap.

But one may just be able to get the O2 percentage up a bit with properly arranged magnetic fields or a centrifuge of some sort, or a combination of the 2.

So something simple and light that increases the % of O2 inducted into an engine would be nice.

You'd have to do a complete energy balance, comparing the OEM thermal efficiency, to that of the modified engine, including the energy requirement to 'free' oxygen from atmosphere.
We want to reduce entropy, not aggravate it.

[oil pan 4]

The best way to separate oxygen is with membranes.

[Isaac Zachary]

Originally Posted by oil pan 4

The best way to separate oxygen is with membranes.

How well does membrane technology compare to zeolite technology? I was under the impression that membrane tech uses less energy but makes less pure oxygen, more like an O2 concentrator than O2 N2 separator.

[rmay635703]

In terrestrial conditions it has long been believed a microscopic set of oppositely charged and magnefied plates could be used to concentrate “polar substances “ in a liquid/gas towards one plate allowing you to separate them using minimal power

This could be used to remove some of the salt in water or some of the co2/water vapor in air

[aerohead]

Originally Posted by rmay635703

In terrestrial conditions it has long been believed a microscopic set of oppositely charged and magnefied plates could be used to concentrate “polar substances “ in a liquid/gas towards one plate allowing you to separate them using minimal power

This could be used to remove some of the salt in water or some of the co2/water vapor in air

Electrostatic precipitators function that way. Air is induced past an array of anodes or cathodes and any polar molecule present in the airstream will be attracted to one or the other, and adhere, until purposely removed.

[Logic]

Originally Posted by rmay635703

In terrestrial conditions it has long been believed a microscopic set of oppositely charged and magnefied plates could be used to concentrate “polar substances “ in a liquid/gas towards one plate allowing you to separate them using minimal power

This could be used to remove some of the salt in water or some of the co2/water vapor in air

I did a quick search, but no luck finding info on this.

There a re a few patents about concentrating O2 with magnets, but the para/dia magnetic forces is so small I don't see this idea working to any useful degree.

[Logic]

Patent:
Gas separator for providing an oxygen-enriched stream {using low-energy ionization}
https://patents.google.com/patent/US7318858B2/en

[Piotrsko]

As of a while back, there is no requirement to prove your patent functions or have a working model. Appears to be more of a copyright than anything else.