Go Back   EcoModder Forum > EcoModding > Aerodynamics
Register Now
 Register Now
 

Reply  Post New Thread
 
Submit Tools LinkBack Thread Tools
Old 03-21-2024, 10:41 AM   #851 (permalink)
Master EcoModder
 
aerohead's Avatar
 
Join Date: Jan 2008
Location: Sanger,Texas,U.S.A.
Posts: 15,895
Thanks: 23,972
Thanked 7,223 Times in 4,650 Posts
700-miles

Quote:
Originally Posted by Phase View Post
The first half of the trip from Portland metro to eastern Oregon blue blue mountains was into a headwind. I was getting in the 40s for mpg that way, not to mention going up in elevation. The wind change direction once I made it over the mountain pass. When I did the trip in June with a slight tail wind the whole way, I got almost 700 miles of range out of the tank. The very high mpg I was getting the other day was only a short flat section from la grande to baker city Oregon. Can’t really track much with the mpg and all the mountain passes the rest of the way
Yeah, 'conditions' can make all the difference. 'Spirit' has done over 900-miles on a tank, on three different outings.
Temperatures, topography, velocity, curves, wind, precipitation, corridor-effect, etc., can all conspire to produce 'outlier', 'back-swan' mpg. A laboratory is the only place we can definitively determine exact performance.

__________________
Photobucket album: http://s1271.photobucket.com/albums/jj622/aerohead2/
  Reply With Quote
Alt Today
Popular topics

Other popular topics in this forum...

   
Old 03-21-2024, 01:21 PM   #852 (permalink)
Master EcoModder
 
Phase's Avatar
 
Join Date: Mar 2022
Location: oregon
Posts: 1,065

Black Bullet - '19 Hyundai Ioniq Hybrid Blue
Thanks: 1
Thanked 552 Times in 441 Posts
Quote:
Originally Posted by aerohead View Post
Yeah, 'conditions' can make all the difference. 'Spirit' has done over 900-miles on a tank, on three different outings.
Temperatures, topography, velocity, curves, wind, precipitation, corridor-effect, etc., can all conspire to produce 'outlier', 'back-swan' mpg. A laboratory is the only place we can definitively determine exact performance.
Exactly. Whenever I’m doing mods, even if they are minor or look dumb, I always ask “ even if I can’t tell if my mpg is getting better, is this mod increasing drag? “. As long as drag doesn’t increase I continue.

I’m surprised more people aren’t aeromodding teslas. Electric cars are more sensitive to drag and range anxiety is real.
  Reply With Quote
The Following User Says Thank You to Phase For This Useful Post:
aerohead (03-23-2024)
Old 03-23-2024, 11:14 AM   #853 (permalink)
Master EcoModder
 
aerohead's Avatar
 
Join Date: Jan 2008
Location: Sanger,Texas,U.S.A.
Posts: 15,895
Thanks: 23,972
Thanked 7,223 Times in 4,650 Posts
' Teslas '

Quote:
Originally Posted by Phase View Post
Exactly. Whenever I’m doing mods, even if they are minor or look dumb, I always ask “ even if I can’t tell if my mpg is getting better, is this mod increasing drag? “. As long as drag doesn’t increase I continue.

I’m surprised more people aren’t aeromodding teslas. Electric cars are more sensitive to drag and range anxiety is real.
1) Those who own homes will charge at home, 50-weeks out of the year, and in daily commuting they'll always have range 'over-capacity.'
2) The only time range is an issue is, on out-of-town, holiday road trips, for two weeks.
3) With 'a better route planner', they can charge while taking a bathroom / coffee/ snack/ meal - break / or shopping etc..
4) Between Denton, Texas and California's West Coast, I saw mostly Tesla BEVs, and they were all doing 75-mph on I -40.I don't think range was an issue for them.
5) AeroStealth and his wife drove the Chevy Bolt that I've purchased, from Radium Springs, NM, to San Diego, California and back, no problem.
6) It's true that you can't drive 'mindlessly', like with gas or diesel, but it doesn't seem to be a hardship. Just time charge sessions to coincide when you'd already be taking a break from driving.
7) The BOLT will do 300-miles on charge if one is 'trying'.
8) My round trip today will be 14-miles.
__________________
Photobucket album: http://s1271.photobucket.com/albums/jj622/aerohead2/
  Reply With Quote
Old 03-23-2024, 01:41 PM   #854 (permalink)
Master EcoModder
 
Phase's Avatar
 
Join Date: Mar 2022
Location: oregon
Posts: 1,065

Black Bullet - '19 Hyundai Ioniq Hybrid Blue
Thanks: 1
Thanked 552 Times in 441 Posts
Quote:
Originally Posted by aerohead View Post
1) Those who own homes will charge at home, 50-weeks out of the year, and in daily commuting they'll always have range 'over-capacity.'
2) The only time range is an issue is, on out-of-town, holiday road trips, for two weeks.
3) With 'a better route planner', they can charge while taking a bathroom / coffee/ snack/ meal - break / or shopping etc..
4) Between Denton, Texas and California's West Coast, I saw mostly Tesla BEVs, and they were all doing 75-mph on I -40.I don't think range was an issue for them.
5) AeroStealth and his wife drove the Chevy Bolt that I've purchased, from Radium Springs, NM, to San Diego, California and back, no problem.
6) It's true that you can't drive 'mindlessly', like with gas or diesel, but it doesn't seem to be a hardship. Just time charge sessions to coincide when you'd already be taking a break from driving.
7) The BOLT will do 300-miles on charge if one is 'trying'.
8) My round trip today will be 14-miles.
Electricity prices are slightly going up. It’s not free for most people. Plus when road tripping, public or superchargers are fairly expensive. In some places they cost more per mile than gasoline depending on what state you’re traveling thru.

Obviously I’m an exception and do countless long road trips. If I had a Tesla, my day trips from Portland to Salt Lake City would add 2-3 hours just for having to stop and charge almost 3 times along the way
  Reply With Quote
Old 03-23-2024, 05:18 PM   #855 (permalink)
Master EcoModder
 
freebeard's Avatar
 
Join Date: Aug 2012
Location: northwest of normal
Posts: 27,704
Thanks: 7,778
Thanked 8,586 Times in 7,070 Posts
[QUOTE]With enough 'conditions' ( caveats ) we have a chance to 'reconstruct' a specific event on paper, and see if we can obtain a 'fit', knowing attributions of specific features captured in other reportings.[/

In theory, there's no difference between theory and practice....QUOTE]

__________________
.
.
Without freedom of speech we wouldn't know who all the idiots are. -- anonymous poster

____________________
.
.
"We're deeply sorry." -- Pfizer
  Reply With Quote
Reply  Post New Thread






Powered by vBulletin® Version 3.8.11
Copyright ©2000 - 2024, vBulletin Solutions Inc.
Content Relevant URLs by vBSEO 3.5.2
All content copyright EcoModder.com