11-20-2008, 02:23 PM
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CD - nice MX3.. i've never really looked at one and thought of it like that...
Still, you need to remove at least 200 lbs before adding that boat-tail to it... in all fairness LOL.
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11-20-2008, 04:38 PM
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chevy is really good at making aero cars..... stingray corvette, cleaned up bodywise I doubt you could do much better
[img[http://imagecache2.allposters.com/images/pic/DES/D694~Chevy-Corvette-Stingray-Posters.jpg[/img]
and there are a few 7th gen civic Si's running around with RSX-s transmissions which are 6speed and have a taller final drive, they get signficiantly better gas milage. one guy thew the type s final on his Si gears with a TSX 5th added as 6th (confused yet?) for much taller gears (he also has a bored and stroked with a LOT more power) and gets around 38mpg out of it. this vs my stock motor with almost 100less hp and stock gears at 10mpg less....
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11-20-2008, 08:08 PM
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chevy is really good at making aero cars..... stingray corvette, cleaned up bodywise I doubt you could do much better
and there are a few 7th gen civic Si's running around with RSX-s transmissions which are 6speed and have a taller final drive, they get signficiantly better gas milage. one guy thew the type s final on his Si gears with a TSX 5th added as 6th (confused yet?) for much taller gears (he also has a bored and stroked with a LOT more power) and gets around 38mpg out of it. this vs my stock motor with almost 100less hp and stock gears at 10mpg less....
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Hate to say it, but some of the most streamlined LOOKING cars are actually aerodynamic nightmares.
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11-20-2008, 08:32 PM
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PS - Cd, your artistic & photoshopping skills are impressive! Nice work.
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Thanks !
Did you happen to notice the modified Metro with wheel skirts ?
( I also posted an image of your Flea with a tow-a-long boattail. I'm not sure if you saw it or not.)
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11-20-2008, 09:12 PM
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So... I wasn't read in on this.. does the boat-tail trailer help as much as a standard boat-tail would? or even close?
Is there a different airflow profile to consider when working with a towbehind rather than the actual vehicle's body?
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11-20-2008, 11:39 PM
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Christ: probably not as much, owing to the additional rolling resistance & drag caused by the trailer tire(s). Not to mention added weight.
Aside from that, designed well, it could potentially make a significant improvement. See: http://ecomodder.com/forum/showthrea...p-fe-5698.html
Cd: I missed the Flea trailer, but saw that white choptop treatment.
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11-21-2008, 12:20 AM
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MetroMPG - Thank you.
I wonder if I can use something of that.. since I like to haul stuff with my car... like car parts lol.
I use my car as a truck.
I also would love to drive that white metro photochop. That's a sweet looking ride, even though it's fake.. and yes, I saw the drag-race EV metro lol. I'd make it road legal.
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11-21-2008, 06:32 PM
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Originally Posted by dichotomous
chevy is really good at making aero cars..... stingray corvette, cleaned up bodywise I doubt you could do much better
[img[http://imagecache2.allposters.com/images/pic/DES/D694~Chevy-Corvette-Stingray-Posters.jpg[/img]
and there are a few 7th gen civic Si's running around with RSX-s transmissions which are 6speed and have a taller final drive, they get signficiantly better gas milage. one guy thew the type s final on his Si gears with a TSX 5th added as 6th (confused yet?) for much taller gears (he also has a bored and stroked with a LOT more power) and gets around 38mpg out of it. this vs my stock motor with almost 100less hp and stock gears at 10mpg less....
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The Corvette shown,with stock wheels and tires measured Cd0.45.
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11-21-2008, 08:56 PM
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Quote:
Originally Posted by dichotomous
chevy is really good at making aero cars..... stingray corvette, cleaned up bodywise I doubt you could do much better
[img[http://imagecache2.allposters.com/images/pic/DES/D694~Chevy-Corvette-Stingray-Posters.jpg[/img]
and there are a few 7th gen civic Si's running around with RSX-s transmissions which are 6speed and have a taller final drive, they get signficiantly better gas milage. one guy thew the type s final on his Si gears with a TSX 5th added as 6th (confused yet?) for much taller gears (he also has a bored and stroked with a LOT more power) and gets around 38mpg out of it. this vs my stock motor with almost 100less hp and stock gears at 10mpg less....
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Curvaceous lines is not an indication of an aerodynamic car
For example, 1969 Opel GT, lots of curvyness that screams to the masses "air just gets out of my way."
A = 1.51 m^2
cD = .41 --- not too bad for the time period
And the 1974, VW Scirocco... Screams "I'm a boxy car, listen to the turbulence I make!"
A = 1.73 m^2
cD = .41
There's likely many other examples with cars that are "boxy" versus "curvy" with identical form drag numbers
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For the OP:
I would put neither of those cars on the list
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11-22-2008, 07:40 AM
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i think perhaps a worhty winner would be the 1970 citroen sm
0.26Cd ! and not to much frontal area by the looks of it it's got a smooth underside that slopes up gently... a true drop on wheels
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