Go Back   EcoModder Forum > EcoModding > EcoModding Central
Register Now
 Register Now
 

Reply  Post New Thread
 
Submit Tools LinkBack Thread Tools
Old 11-05-2009, 05:58 PM   #71 (permalink)
Master EcoModder
 
orange4boy's Avatar
 
Join Date: Aug 2008
Location: The Wet Coast, Kanuckistan.
Posts: 1,275

The Golden Egg - '93 Toyota Previa DX
90 day: 31.91 mpg (US)

Chewie - '03 Toyota Prius
90 day: 57 mpg (US)

The Spaceship - '00 Honda Insight
Thanks: 100
Thanked 306 Times in 178 Posts
List-o-mods suggestion:

Have had great success with my TCC lockup switch. Increase over two full tanks was 20%. Went from 24mpg (4 tanks) full tank average to 29mpg. (2 tanks)

I figure that's worth the 10 minutes it took to wire. It takes some getting used to driving with it but it's more fun.

Biggest gains would be had in hilly country.

__________________
Vortex generators are old tech. My new and improved vortex alternators are unstoppable.

"It’s easy to explain how rockets work but explaining the aerodynamics of a wing takes a rocket scientist.


  Reply With Quote
Alt Today
Popular topics

Other popular topics in this forum...

   
Old 12-03-2009, 09:53 PM   #72 (permalink)
EcoModding Lurker
 
Join Date: Apr 2009
Location: WNY
Posts: 9
Thanks: 5
Thanked 0 Times in 0 Posts
I've heard of this switch but I've never read a report from someone who used it; thanks!
  Reply With Quote
Old 12-03-2009, 10:51 PM   #73 (permalink)
Batman Junior
 
MetroMPG's Avatar
 
Join Date: Nov 2007
Location: 1000 Islands, Ontario, Canada
Posts: 22,527

Blackfly - '98 Geo Metro
Team Metro
Last 3: 70.09 mpg (US)

MPGiata - '90 Mazda Miata
90 day: 54.46 mpg (US)

Even Fancier Metro - '14 Mitsubishi Mirage top spec
90 day: 70.75 mpg (US)

Appliance car Mirage - '14 Mitsubishi Mirage ES (base)
90 day: 62.14 mpg (US)
Thanks: 4,078
Thanked 6,976 Times in 3,612 Posts
Quote:
Originally Posted by orange4boy View Post
List-o-mods suggestion:
It's on the list to add to the list. Been on it for a while, actually.

(Tackling the list is on another list...)
__________________
Project MPGiata! Mods for getting 50+ MPG from a 1990 Miata
Honda mods: Ecomodding my $800 Honda Fit 5-speed beater
Mitsu mods: 70 MPG in my ecomodded, dirt cheap, 3-cylinder Mirage.
Ecodriving test: Manual vs. automatic transmission MPG showdown



EcoModder
has launched a forum for the efficient new Mitsubishi Mirage
www.MetroMPG.com - fuel efficiency info for Geo Metro owners
www.ForkenSwift.com - electric car conversion on a beer budget
  Reply With Quote
Old 12-03-2009, 10:53 PM   #74 (permalink)
Moderate your Moderation.
 
Join Date: Nov 2008
Location: Troy, Pa.
Posts: 8,919

Pasta - '96 Volkswagen Passat TDi
90 day: 45.22 mpg (US)
Thanks: 1,369
Thanked 430 Times in 353 Posts
That would be the list that contains all the lists of things that need to be listed. In list format, of course.
__________________
"¿ʞɐǝɹɟ ɐ ǝɹ,noʎ uǝɥʍ 'ʇı ʇ,usı 'ʎlǝuol s,ʇı"

  Reply With Quote
Old 12-04-2009, 12:55 AM   #75 (permalink)
Master EcoModder
 
orange4boy's Avatar
 
Join Date: Aug 2008
Location: The Wet Coast, Kanuckistan.
Posts: 1,275

The Golden Egg - '93 Toyota Previa DX
90 day: 31.91 mpg (US)

Chewie - '03 Toyota Prius
90 day: 57 mpg (US)

The Spaceship - '00 Honda Insight
Thanks: 100
Thanked 306 Times in 178 Posts
"Give me a list long enough and a forum on which to place it, and I shall mod the world."

- Marchimedes
__________________
Vortex generators are old tech. My new and improved vortex alternators are unstoppable.

"It’s easy to explain how rockets work but explaining the aerodynamics of a wing takes a rocket scientist.


  Reply With Quote
Old 12-30-2009, 01:52 AM   #76 (permalink)
EcoModding Lurker
 
Join Date: Dec 2009
Location: Chicago
Posts: 16
Thanks: 1
Thanked 1 Time in 1 Post
few comments on the write-up (and things I haven't seen in the responses)

side mirrors are a big aerodynamic issue on most cars. rather than deleting them for legal reasons, substitute them with motorcycle racing side mirrors... There are many choices.

Overdrive pulleys for the water pump, power steering pump, alternator; AND/OR an underdrive crank pulley. I see alot of confusion with people saying over-drive or under-drive. Over-drive is a larger pulley you put on any accessory to make it spin slower. Under-drive is a smaller pulley you would put on the crank to make the whole belt assembly spin slower as a whole. Electric pumps are all great but its a whole 'nother drug. I don't hear alot of success stories, and it always seems to be costing someone alot of money (ZOMG my coolant pump lost siphon and my engine locked up).

weight reduction isn't as much of a mpg gain as it would seem. aerodynamics plays into effect much more than weight does at a constant cruise speed. The weight reduction gains that are maximized are by reducing the rotating mass and the unsprung mass. Light rim/tire combos along with 2-piece rotors. It makes a difference in the power you put to the road. Gutting your car on the otherhand does not make that much of a difference.

wheel bearings and alignment. you don't have to wait for squealing noises before you replace some of this stuff.
  Reply With Quote
Old 12-30-2009, 04:00 AM   #77 (permalink)
(:
 
Frank Lee's Avatar
 
Join Date: Jan 2008
Location: up north
Posts: 12,762

Blue - '93 Ford Tempo
Last 3: 27.29 mpg (US)

F150 - '94 Ford F150 XLT 4x4
90 day: 18.5 mpg (US)

Sport Coupe - '92 Ford Tempo GL
Last 3: 69.62 mpg (US)

ShWing! - '82 honda gold wing Interstate
90 day: 33.65 mpg (US)

Moon Unit - '98 Mercury Sable LX Wagon
90 day: 21.24 mpg (US)
Thanks: 1,585
Thanked 3,555 Times in 2,218 Posts
I like the idea of an underdrive pulley slowing the whole works down, but that is tempered by the knowledge that the tighter you bend chains/belts on small sprockets/pullies, the less efficient the power transfer system becomes. So then you must decide if the gains from slowing the driven stuff down overcome the loss from bending that belt tighter. They probably do, but still it sux to ADD inefficiency to get efficiency
__________________


  Reply With Quote
Old 12-30-2009, 04:04 AM   #78 (permalink)
Moderate your Moderation.
 
Join Date: Nov 2008
Location: Troy, Pa.
Posts: 8,919

Pasta - '96 Volkswagen Passat TDi
90 day: 45.22 mpg (US)
Thanks: 1,369
Thanked 430 Times in 353 Posts
Quote:
Originally Posted by Frank Lee View Post
I like the idea of an underdrive pulley slowing the whole works down, but that is tempered by the knowledge that the tighter you bend chains/belts on small sprockets/pullies, the less efficient the power transfer system becomes. So then you must decide if the gains from slowing the driven stuff down overcome the loss from bending that belt tighter. They probably do, but still it sux to ADD inefficiency to get efficiency
The belt radius could be overcome by increasing the diameter of both pulleys, but this exacerbates the issue by adding angular momentum and increased rotating mass.

Darn it all.

Well, maybe if you replaced them with bigger aluminum pieces with a lower turns ratio, you could defeat both issues, but then there is still the angular momentum issue caused by the larger radius of the pulleys. Darn Darn Darn!
__________________
"¿ʞɐǝɹɟ ɐ ǝɹ,noʎ uǝɥʍ 'ʇı ʇ,usı 'ʎlǝuol s,ʇı"

  Reply With Quote
Old 12-30-2009, 04:07 AM   #79 (permalink)
(:
 
Frank Lee's Avatar
 
Join Date: Jan 2008
Location: up north
Posts: 12,762

Blue - '93 Ford Tempo
Last 3: 27.29 mpg (US)

F150 - '94 Ford F150 XLT 4x4
90 day: 18.5 mpg (US)

Sport Coupe - '92 Ford Tempo GL
Last 3: 69.62 mpg (US)

ShWing! - '82 honda gold wing Interstate
90 day: 33.65 mpg (US)

Moon Unit - '98 Mercury Sable LX Wagon
90 day: 21.24 mpg (US)
Thanks: 1,585
Thanked 3,555 Times in 2,218 Posts
I KNOW!!!

So instead of worrying about all that jazz, I just keep the rpms low and the accessories off.
__________________


  Reply With Quote
Old 12-30-2009, 04:08 AM   #80 (permalink)
Moderate your Moderation.
 
Join Date: Nov 2008
Location: Troy, Pa.
Posts: 8,919

Pasta - '96 Volkswagen Passat TDi
90 day: 45.22 mpg (US)
Thanks: 1,369
Thanked 430 Times in 353 Posts
SUNUVA!!! You might be on to something, Frank!

__________________
"¿ʞɐǝɹɟ ɐ ǝɹ,noʎ uǝɥʍ 'ʇı ʇ,usı 'ʎlǝuol s,ʇı"

  Reply With Quote
Reply  Post New Thread




Similar Threads
Thread Thread Starter Forum Replies Last Post
List of aero mods you can do to your vehicle MetroMPG Aerodynamics 148 08-12-2021 11:53 PM
Experiment: smooth wheel discs tested A-B-A - 4.6% mpg improvement @ 65 mph Concrete Aerodynamics 318 01-19-2015 12:37 PM
Pulse&Glide, and aero mods, big mpg increase. Sulfuric Success Stories 3 01-15-2009 12:57 PM
2006 in review: mods vs. technique. And the winner is... MetroMPG Hypermiling / EcoDriver's Ed 16 12-10-2007 08:46 AM



Powered by vBulletin® Version 3.8.11
Copyright ©2000 - 2024, vBulletin Solutions Inc.
Content Relevant URLs by vBSEO 3.5.2
All content copyright EcoModder.com