"More than a half dozen" from China

[gumby79]

They dont have to ban ICE. Just ban fuel sales and make it a "dry country" Problem solved. The neighbos can come over for a fee, kinda like a National Park, with an ICE they just have to leave the country to fill up. problem solved for all but the edges and black market.The problem with being first is you have to prove it will work before the sheeplewill fallow.eg Tesla proved EV are feasible and profitable then EVs started coming out of the woodwork and not as a fad.

Someone has to . The others will fallow.
---the next major leep in battery technology 500+mi/charge will set this trend in motion.
How many more millions of Mega Watts will it take to charge millions of EVs and to not have the rolling blackouts return to CA the grid can bearly handle now. Will this kinda move reduce the dirty coal restrictions? Or will it put a Nuclear power in evry city? We need better technology ! We get this by pushing fringe science in to main streem science.
Gumby stay flexible

[elhigh]

Isn't the Netherlands also the home of the Kewet Buddy? I always considered that to be the spiritual successor to the old Citicar. It looks just like a Citicar except it doesn't look dreadful like a Citicar, has an interior that is considerably nicer than the garden tractor appointments in the Citicar, and can be counted on to get out of its own way.

[elhigh]

Originally Posted by gumby79

We get this by pushing fringe science in to main streem science.
Gumby stay flexible

Ooh, I don't like the sound of that. "Fringe science" doesn't always meet the criteria for being actual "science."

It does, however, often meet the criteria for being "lunatic fringe."

Having an off-the-wall idea is good, it means you're thinking and exploring.

Testing it is even better, because if it works then that adds something to what has been understood, even if the test results fly in the face of what has been understood. Repeated testing is better still, because it adds weight to the new findings.

Espousing in spite of tests' evidence, however, is neither science nor fringe. It's delusion or, worse, scamming.

[jamesqf]

Originally Posted by freebeard

There are whole countries declaring they will be all-electric—Netherlands by 2025

It's pretty easy to go electric when your country is flat, and you can drive your Tesla from one side to the other on a single charge.

[samwichse]

Originally Posted by elhigh

Isn't the Netherlands also the home of the Kewet Buddy? I always considered that to be the spiritual successor to the old Citicar. It looks just like a Citicar except it doesn't look dreadful like a Citicar, has an interior that is considerably nicer than the garden tractor appointments in the Citicar, and can be counted on to get out of its own way.

Whatever it looks like, it can't look as bad as a Zagato Zele/Elcar

[freebeard]

Originally Posted by elhigh

Ooh, I don't like the sound of that.

I notice that mainstream astronomy is starting to grudgingly acknowledge the Electric Universe.

It's pretty easy to go electric when your country is flat, and you can drive your Tesla from one side to the other on a single charge.

No opportunity for hydro-electric power, but the Netherlands is well positioned for Moon power.

[RedDevil]

Originally Posted by jamesqf

It's pretty easy to go electric when your country is flat, and you can drive your Tesla from one side to the other on a single charge.

That would be easy indeed but for the 'my Tesla' bit.
Then we don't always stay within the borders. We need the range to cross Belgium where EV chargers have not yet been invented.

[gumby79]

Originally Posted by elhigh

Ooh, I don't like the sound of that. "Fringe science" doesn't always meet the criteria for being actual "science."
Agreed; but add at this time. 150ago AC power was fringe science but now it gets 400+tone mile per gallon according to CSX Railroad

It does, however, often meet the criteria for being "lunatic fringe."

Having an off-the-wall idea is good, it means you're thinking and exploring. sometimes it just means you don't know what the box looks like so it can't influnce the confines of your view. I got a job as a R&D fabricator/ engineer at a Co. Bulding a prototype 20'×65' floating combine(just picture a big green combine with pontoons instead of tires) . Got the job just becouse I didn't know what the box looked like. I had never even researched building a large boat muchless considered it . (Kinda saying I always think out dide the box, I try to avoid it,its to restrictive.).

Testing it is even better, because if it works then that adds something to what has been understood, even if the test results fly in the face of what has been understood. Repeated testing is better still, because it adds weight to the new findings. then you ask what do we not understand as these people proved we can NOT replacate natur becuas we dont see the fringes of the big picture
Effects of magnetic fields produced by simulated and real geomagnetic storms on rats
During thire failed atempt to simulate a Coronal Mas Ejection (CME)in the lab an actual CME occurred proving thier theory about Vascular presser changes caused by a CME. Damm right IMHO we should test the hell out of what happens during a CME.thire could be the connection that N. TESLA was missing.


Espousing in spite of tests' evidence, however, is neither science nor fringe. It's delusion or, worse, scamming. some times the evidence is simply ignored or hiden from the light of day for political reasons, or because it is taboo because 100years ago it wasnt posable. If it is not understood instead of labeling it taboo, TRY to find the right questions to understand it better. No respected scientist will publicly tuch the subject.main streem will ignore the evidence keeping it on the fringes to fill political pockets. Eg Browns Gas(BG), its common knowledge that BG only burns @~136°c in free air but can vaporize tungsten (W) not melt @6192°f but vaporize into 2/3 W gas @10000°f. Insted of Mainstream asking what when how? Instead its we don't understand. Or they smply say no that brakes the laws of physics it cant be. it a fringe science if you venture down that rabbit hole your finshed.
HHO or more properly HOH isn't in the Unicorn Coral because it dusnt work on the contrary its thire becuas "we" haven't figured out how to power it without costing crankshaft HP.. or that we haven't written the laws of physics that pertains to hydroxyls or Rydberg Clusters because they brake our current set.

Freebeard

I notice that mainstream astronomy is starting to grudgingly acknowledge the Electric Universe.]

hear is a summary of how much of that fringe rabbit hole this groop (just like Ecomodder is comprised of amateurs all the way up to mutable phd.'s in thire fild)has looked. https://youtu.be/VVgUZv9ccyQ

Before you can look down the rabbit hole you first have to acknowledge that the rabbit hole might exists. Then you test this theory with a multitude of tests and some will require multiple different methodologys. to confirm your new discovery.
I mean no hard feelings.and the testing continues till wou find your self in the box called current technology limmit . It takes an innovator to push the limmits not a designer.
I mean no hard feelings.
Gumby stay flexiblet

[freebeard]

Bulding a prototype 20'×65' floating combine(just picture a big green combine with pontoons instead of tires) .

Pix or it didn't happen.

I'm guessing cranberries.

I watched #1 Risk after he pre-announced it on his daily update. I've watched
Mr2Tuff2's experiments. Watched the stuff on space water. Watched the Thunderbolts Project successfully predict things that baffle astronomers. Watched them call the timing of the recent spate of earthquakes on the Ring of Fire.

I'm content to let them do the heavy lifting. No time for 'hard feelings'.

[gumby79]

this is as close as you get this one is not mine but you get the Idea Confidentiality Agreement "no pictures " boat I helped build /desine from a houseboat platform had a 20' header 5 pontoons 2 full length 3, 2/3 aft of center there were only 3 Co harvisting Blue Green Algae off Klamath Lake. I worked For KAP Klamath Algae Products .

Google maps is as close as i can do for my boat if you can back the date up to~ July- dec of 2010 you might cache me out thire working on it
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Kool glad to hear theres a crowd of people standing outside the box.