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Old Yesterday, 10:43 AM   #501 (permalink)
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Details! We need details!
Injectors modified how? Just for a start!
Pistons? Just lower compression to give more volume at TDC?

You might try a HHO cell, NOT for economy, but to increase flame speed and free you of
'Nitrous range anxiety' and cost..?

I'm glad the info on Acetone increasing atomization/vaporization? was handy.
On the injectors I came up with a plastic injector cap that directs the fuel spray towards the pre-chamber feed slot. It made a major improvement at a low cost. My favorite type of modification.

On the HHO cell I had one given to me from a viewer, but it was lost in freight and never received it. So now I'm back to square one and looking for another one. This is something I need to address ASAP because as we talked nitrous is just an experimenting band aid as of now because of its extra cost.

Thanks again for the information about Acetone. This really opened my eyes to the importance of fuel atomization. Just to recap to some of the new viewers the waste solvent I use is made up of 85 to 90% Acetone. Just a quick good old boy test is spill a couple ounces of Acetone on the road vs a couple ounces of pump fuel and watch them evaporate. Acetone will be all evaporated in fraction of time compared to the pump fuel. Pump fuel has changed a ton since the mid 70's when it comes to evaporation and its volatility.

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Old Yesterday, 11:06 AM   #502 (permalink)
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Didn't you have another engine that you were going to assemble and fit to the Camaro, while keeping the Talon? Are you going to daily-drive the Camaro?
You're correct, I do have another engine ready to go in the Camaro. I just recently made the decision to use the Talon engine that is tried and true. The new engine is made more for upper high rpm and will not be as fuel efficient.
The Talon engine in the Camaro should be able to run high 8's in the 1/4 mile pretty easy and should be able to get better fuel milage based on its better aero vs the Talon. Don't get me wrong the Talon has good aero at .29 Cd but the AWD part hurts the Talon a bit.

The main reason I'm getting rid of the Talon it is taking a toll on me trying to work on two highly modified cars. This and I don't have the room for this many projects. The Talon also has drivetrain issues when turned up. Transmission, transfer case, and drive axles are always breaking. Plus, the Camaro will be 100 times easier to work on and make changes on.

The Camaro won't be driven in the winter months but will drive the wheels off it during the warmer months.
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On the injectors I came up with a plastic injector cap that directs the fuel spray towards the pre-chamber feed slot. It made a major improvement at a low cost. My favorite type of modification.
Ah! Yes; everyone's favorite type of mod.
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On the HHO cell I had one given to me from a viewer, but it was lost in freight and never received it. So now I'm back to square one and looking for another one. This is something I need to address ASAP because as we talked nitrous is just an experimenting band aid as of now because of its extra cost.
That's a pity.

I NB that MIT etc's SynGas producing Plasmatrons are little more than giant spark plugs, fed with a tiny bit of water and fuel that's pre heated by the exhaust.
They actually look cheaper and easier to knock together than your std HHO cell and are at an efficiency that made MIT and Co commercialize them before being 'bought out'.
I'll re-look at the research if you like.

Then there's Graphite Foil which, unlike stainless steel, you can cut with a pair of scissors.
That makes making a cell way simpler.

6 cells will give you some Ozone if you want Ozone?
7 is more efficient and runs cooler.
IIRC the electrodes don't erode as easily either.


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Thanks again for the information about Acetone. This really opened my eyes to the importance of fuel atomization. Just to recap to some of the new viewers the waste solvent I use is made up of 85 to 90% Acetone. Just a quick good old boy test is spill a couple ounces of Acetone on the road vs a couple ounces of pump fuel and watch them evaporate. Acetone will be all evaporated in fraction of time compared to the pump fuel. Pump fuel has changed a ton since the mid 70's when it comes to evaporation and its volatility.
A pleasure pgfpro.

I have heard complaints before that pump fuel has changed.
IIRC people complaining that it no longer evaporated as it did and now left a "sticky" residue that gummed up the works.
Is this your experience too?

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