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Maybe I'll get a quote from them too.
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Why would you not?
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Pretty much needs to be ground mount because permitting on a manufactured home is a 60/40 gamble.
2. Oregon law precludes series inverters if solar is installed on a habitable structure.
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Maybe that's why? All the 'mobile homes' around me have a structure like a carport roof over them, being RVs. Could the 'ground mount' be on 12ft columns?
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FYI — Tesla have conventional panels as well as the glass roof tiles:
Tesla Solarglass V3 Efficiency Revealed
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estimates one could use the price per
watt for solar glass of six to seven
dollars per watt compared that with
normal PV installation which is 2.5 to
four dollars per watt the prices here
are not just for the PV panels but for
the total system which includes the cost
for all components like inverters wiring
and also the installation cost...
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02-14-2020, 01:30 PM
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Why would you not?
Maybe that's why? All the 'mobile homes' around me have a structure like a carport roof over them, being RVs. Could the 'ground mount' be on 12ft columns?
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FYI — Tesla have conventional panels as well as the glass roof tiles:
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Good point, I'll get a quote from Tesla. Their normal PV panels have a $100 refundable deposit. The Solarglass has a $100 non-refundable deposit.
What would be the advantage of placing the ground mount 12' up? The appeal of ground mount is ease of maintenance and seasonal adjustment.
Regarding Solarglass, I'm interested because it also replaces the roof, so the cost of a conventional roof needs to be factored into the price. I'd be willing to pay a bit extra too if Solarglass roofing will hold up a substantial amount better than asphalt shingle. It's unclear to me how the roof is waterproof, because the glass panels don't appear to overlap on the sides, and they sit on plastic standoffs that appear to be nailed to the sheathing. I'd be concerned with the longevity of the plastic standoffs considering the heat they would be subject to.
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Perhaps the edges have a trough that catches water and sends it to the top of the panel below it.
Not sure what the carport roof comment is. The manufactured home my parents bought had a carport, but we didn't assemble it when moved to their property because they wanted a garage.
Mobile homes aren't RVs. They are traditional stick-built structures built in a factory rather than on site. They are assembled on site and usually never move again.
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02-14-2020, 02:40 PM
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A suggestion to circumvent local regulations (and roof loading limitations). Maybe not applicable.
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02-14-2020, 02:45 PM
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Update: Tesla not a "trade ally", so they can't claim either DOE or utility funds.
I reached out to 2 other local companies to schedule a bid.
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Vas ist das?
https://duckduckgo.com/?q=a+%22trade+ally%22 first result is:
Who is the controlling authority of this?
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ODOE and EnergyTrust.
freebeard, you've got to become a landowner so you can take advantage of the regressive programs out there. Also because you place importance on liberty. At the very least, an ADU.
ODOE will pay $5k for solar, and EnergyTrust will pay $9k up to 6 kWh for lower income folks. Then the feds allow 26% of the remaining cost to be deducted from taxes and carried forward 20 years.
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I would be if it weren't for my brother. He inherited three tax lots (two contiguous, one a traffic island) and my other brother and I came up short.
Our younger brother is gone, and he's expecting to be by the time that Kate Brown's machinations reach fruition. I'm planning for another 20 years. Maybe a houseboat? I could put the [35ft R-license park model] on pontoons.
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Ah, water living. That sounds like freedom to me.
My retirement idea was to get a sailboat and travel. I bet there'd be autonomous sailing by then, or I could make my own. Shouldn't be too tricky to attach servos to the sheets.
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That's what the younger brother did, bought a sailboat in Portland, learned to sail, out the Columbia bar and hop-scotched down the coast to the Sea of Cortez. Seasonal migrant the length of the peninsula.
But the health care available in Mexico didn't help with organ failure, and he made it back as far as the UofO medical castle on the hill overlooking Portland.
I'd look for a protected anchorage, maybe Tillamook Bay at Garibaldi.
The top of that hill the big G is on would be a perfect place to watch the mega-tsunami crest around you.
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BatteryHookup announced yesterday they are selling PV panels for $0.15/watt. I think they are in PA though so that wouldn't help you. lol
Older 180W panels so you would have to be willing to probably pick them up, and be able to have an unlimited space array... considering they're probably less than half efficient as the new panels.
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