New 2010 VW Polo: lighter, safer, higher mpg (71), better looking... Coming here?

[robchalmers]

The current Polo BluMo is cheaper than the Lupo/A2 3L but its a shame that yet again you don't get to have a go in the full euro spec cars. If you're worried about them being slow BTW they're not.... Last year I drove a few american cars while out there - a chevy trail blazer, ford fusion and a chevy cobalt coupe, the current BluMo's is nippy than the cobalt - quieter than the fusion at cruise and gains speed from rest or at highway speed quicker than all three due to the torque from that diesel lump! remember these are the same group that brought you the Audi R10 and R15 ALMS cars and the technology has flowed straight down the blood line.

Also the Current BluMo is only available here with a tall ratio manual box - being cynical I've a feeling that'll be a slushmatic by the time its released on the US market - Although you might get the kick-ass twin clutch DSG seemless shift box because that has an auto mode......

As an employee of VAG i'm a little biased though!!!

Wonder why you guys don't get the Passat BluMo??? Just imagine if every household in america went from a twenty something MPG Fusion to a fifty something MPG Passat BluMo your foreign oil issue would evaporate quicker than gas on a Houston forecourt!!!!! - If you want to stay home grown GM, Ford and Chrysler alll have European arms with amazing eco diesels that could do a similar job.

p.s. golf/rabbit = same Polo sooooooo Very very different its like comparing the fusion and the focus.

[danwat1234]

Hate to rain on this old thread, but the VW polo doesn't get anywhere near 71MPG.
People can barely get 50MPG! 2012 Volkswagen Polo MPG Reports | Fuelly
Maybe someone else can point to other real world MPG numbers that are higher?

You have to keep in mind those MPG estimates are not EPA estimates, a less real-world testing method is done on European cars. Also you have to take into account that imperial gallons are 20% more than USA gallons.

I'd personally take a Prius C over a Polo in the USA.

[CVTCivic]

The MPG is even worse. I drove the Volkswagen Polo from 2012 for seven years. It was the four cylinder 1.2 liter turbo engine, which had 90 horsepower with a manual transmission. I sold that car after seven years, because in that time it had way too much repairs for a car of that age. There were also electronic failures which cost me a lot of money to getting them fixed.

Back then, the car was officialy advertised with a 47MPG (5 l/100km), measured by the standards of this awful NEFZ method. Nowadays we have WLTP standardised in Europe, but this is still not as good and realistic as EPA. But at least it's closer to reality than NEFZ.

The combined milegae of the car based on several german car-related media was defined at 35 mpg (6.6 l/100 km). I managed to get a overall mileage of 37.6 MPG on 43.000 miles (72.500 km) I drove.

On a gas tracking website were a lot people tracking their gas fillings, there were 120 people which had the same car, with the exact same engine and also manual transmission, together they had 37 MPG.

My one and only hypermiling-story with this car so far:
I drove it from a full tank to till the engine went off on purpose. By that I was able to reach 745 miles (1200 km) with a single tank. That was a MPG of 51 (4,7 l/100 km).

Even though in a hypermile community 50 MPG are sounding not like a very good achievement, I was pretty proud at that time.
And as I mentioned in to other posts, I'm living in a city and have constantly to deal with traffic jams, stop and go traffic and the Autobahn, all of these things make it a bit hard to be a good hypermiler.

[teoman]

I have the same generation audi A3, more like the golf of the same era. It is a 1.6 diesel.

I got it exactly one year ago (minus one day) and i have done 32,125 km with an average of 5.81 l/100km.

On the highway i have gotten 3.9 l/100km (was supposedly rated for 3.7) but with a lot of effort. Normally it is 4.5 ish.

City traffic sucks. I also live in a big city and that really kills the fuel economy.

[airbiteses]

Hm ... I have a Seat Ibiza 2014 recently with a 1.2 110 HP or 105 HP engine (plans to tune the engine to 140 HP) and in the city it burns from 4.5 l / 100km (52.3 mpg) to 5.5 l / 100 km (42 , 8 mpg) and on the route or on the highway it burned the least 3.9 l / 100km (60.3 mpg) and the most 4.5 l / 100km (52.3 mpg). And Suzuki Baleno 1.2 on the route burned ... 2.9l / 100 km ( 81.1 mpg) and in the city an average of 4.5 l / 100 km (52.3 mpg). The downside of these cars is that when I turn on the heating in the interior, the combustion increases ...

[CVTCivic]

Originally Posted by airbiteses

Hm ... I have a Seat Ibiza 2014 recently with a 1.2 110 HP or 105 HP engine (plans to tune the engine to 140 HP) and in the city it burns from 4.5 l / 100km (52.3 mpg) to 5.5 l / 100 km (42 , 8 mpg) and on the route or on the highway it burned the least 3.9 l / 100km (60.3 mpg) and the most 4.5 l / 100km (52.3 mpg). And Suzuki Baleno 1.2 on the route burned ... 2.9l / 100 km ( 81.1 mpg) and in the city an average of 4.5 l / 100 km (52.3 mpg). The downside of these cars is that when I turn on the heating in the interior, the combustion increases ...

That fuel consumption is very low, that sounds like a Diesel engine?

A petrol engine would burn much more in the city. Well at least what I understand as city traffic, with tons red lights and stop and go traffic.

[CVTCivic]

Based on a german fuel tracking site, were 407 users tracked their gas fillings the fuel economy for the Volkswagen Polo (2009-2017) 1.2 Diesel engine (75HP) with mannual transmission is: 53MPG (4.64 l/100km)

Some few drivers are able to maintain a mileage of 65 MPG over several tenthousand kilometers.

[airbiteses]

This is the 1.2 TSI. It depends when and at what times traffic on the roads but I try to go where there are less lights or traffic on the roads .. The lights are even every 100 meters as in America in New York. The disadvantage of the Seat Ibiza is its weight ... which weighs 1160 kg, And I had a Megane II sedan which measures 4.5 m in length and weighs 1280 kg.

[cRiPpLe_rOoStEr]

Even though the 5th-generation VW Polo had not been available in Brazil, it had been sold in some neighboring countries and its sedan version is still sold along the Virtus which is the sedan version of the current 6th generation. OTOH both the predecessor and the replacement of the 5th generation have been made in Brazil. When it comes to engines, due to fiscal benefits for engines up to 1.0L in Brazil both a naturally-aspirated one with port injection bolted to a manual transmission and a TSI with automatic transmission are available along the 1.6L naturally-aspirated which is available with both transmissions, which by the way is the only engine available for regional exports in the Brazilian-made Polo and Virtus. Recently the GTS versions with the 1.4 TSI were released in Brazil, but I doubt they would become exported. Well, maybe since this engine is already available in versions compliant to EPA emission regulations it would probably be the only engine to be featured in some eventual U.S.-spec Polo or Virtus. Meanwhile in Europe the Polo features only the 1.0L gassers and a 1.6 TDI for regular versions with a 2.0 TSI available only in the GTI trim.

[GreenTDI]

Especially the unrealistic European test method was to blame. EPA is much more realistic and achievable in daily traffic.
On top of that, the EA189 diesel engines (1.2 - 1.6 - 2.0 TDI from 2009 - 2015) where notorious for the dieselgate affair. Those engines had software that could recognize testing conditions and switched to a very economical program with very little power. That sounds very good to a hypermiler, but that 'program' was impossible to enable by owners in production cars. On the other hand, the dieselgate engines where much more powerful than those of competitors but also much more polluting.

I have a VW 1.2 TDI dieselgate engine in my car, and getting a respectable 55 + MPG with normal driving conditions. The bad software has been removed a couple of years ago and the car has consumed a little less since than. But I also notice less eagerness at higher speeds.