New Coronavirus - COVID-19

[freebeard]

Crazy. When I loaded my spreadsheet it said that it lost the latest version. This one has not been updated in six days. It estimated 2,021,790 cases for today.
..., either way, we're all going to live!
Is anyone else suddenly getting logged out way more often?

If it's one of those Bill Gates machines, maybe it has a virus?

[Piotrsko]

Originally Posted by freebeard

If it's one of those Bill Gates machines, maybe it has a virus?

The microstupid machine is turned off battery out. I'm getting disconnected randomly across three OS, 6 or so browsers. And no it's not my router/modem, one is a phone on a vpn.

[JSH]

Originally Posted by freebeard

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Gretchen_Whitmer for example?

She ordered the doctors to not use hydroxychloroquine, until she was begging for it.

No she didn't. I linked her actual statement earlier in this thread.

That statement said that there had been reports of Michigan doctors prescribing hydroxchloraquine to friends and family members who are not sick to allow those select individuals to stockpile it. She reminded them that is illegal and can result in their licenses being suspended.

[redpoint5]

Originally Posted by Xist

According to https://covid19.healthdata.org/united-states-of-america, the U.S. peaked four days ago for new cases and deaths one day ago, in New York cases peaked on the 8th and deaths on the 10th, and Italy peaked cases on March 28th and deaths on March 27th.

It shows Italy being down to zero on May First.

Great. Let me check the numbers. Don't worry, you won't need to wait.

Deaths nationwide are definitely slowing down. It grew on average 12.53% between March 17th and April 3rd. It has averaged 7.05% since then, so that is progress. It was 8.01% on April 4th and 5.84% today.

Crazy. When I loaded my spreadsheet it said that it lost the latest version. This one has not been updated in six days. It estimated 2,021,790 cases for today.

What does the shadow portion of the chart represent? I've looked at this site before, but it doesn't explain anything.

I've been glancing at:
https://www.worldometers.info/coronavirus/country/us/

and it says we had a huge spike yesterday. I don't think it's clear we've peaked yet. We should see more cases in a week or 2 following Easter.

[JSH]

Originally Posted by redpoint5

What does the shadow portion of the chart represent? I've looked at this site before, but it doesn't explain anything..

The shaded area is the tolerance band for uncertainty. The explanation is at the bottom of the page.

[redpoint5]

Originally Posted by JSH

The shaded area is the tolerance band for uncertainty. The explanation is at the bottom of the page.

That's what I figured, but then deaths per day has a vertical line that didn't make sense to me. As if we could go from 1.5k deaths per day to 7k tomorrow. I'm 99.99% certain we aren't going from 1.5k to 7k in 24hrs.

[freebeard]

Originally Posted by JSH

That statement said that there had been reports of Michigan doctors prescribing hydroxchloraquine to friends and family members who are not sick to allow those select individuals to stockpile it.

I can accept that that is true. A counterargument would be that the doctors and their immediate, co-housed, family should be protected. Shirt-tail cousins not so much.

edit: Not zefrank's best work but here it is:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=o5Ejup_nfPY

2nd edit: Dr John on Vitamin D3: Vitamin D and Immunity, Lots of Evidence


Various opinions on a daily dose. 4-5000 IU is popular. I wash mine down with diet Tonic (quinine) Water.

[Xist]

Redpoint, the only vertical line that I see is the one under my cursor:

Right, so a friend posted on Facebook that since unemployment is now paying $600 a week, the government determined that people need at least that much to live.

People only make the most logical and best-researched arguments on social media!

Imagine this bright and shiny future: You are craving highly-processed food, so you have your car drive you to the McDonald's Box. You order on your phone, connect to the Box, and the McCannon fires your order through the window.

Your car drives you back home automatically.

As soon as I found out that everyone approved for unemployment would receive a $600 a week bonus I started complaining. Arizona normally pays $240 a week. I have had worse weeks, but I can see it being difficult to pay your bills at that rate, but people are supposed to be actively looking for work. My sister that thinks that living in California is a great idea [!] started talking crazy about a living wage.

Unemployment is not supposed to be a living wage! Why are they potentially paying more than people earned?!

Nineteen states still have $7.25 minimum wages. Georgia and Wyoming have $5.15 wages, although "Employers subject to the Fair Labor Standards Act must pay the $7.25 Federal minimum wage." Is that enough?

I have no idea.

The minimum unemployment payment varies between $5 in Hawaii and $178 in Washington per week. The maximum unemployment payment varies between $235 in Mississippi to $795 in Massachusetts. Hopefully most people in Hawaii receive more than the minimum because that would hardly do any good. I do not know how far $235 a week would go in Mississippi [or $240 in Arizona], but it gives you a chance. I have absolutely no problem with the maximum being over forty times the minimum wage. If I have a nice professional job I have every reason to buy a moderate house and car.

There is no way you could make your payments for less than $1,000 a month. If you paid unemployment for the required time then I am sure that two or three thousand is perfectly reasonable. For example, in order to receive $823 a week in Massachusetts (the other site lied saying it was $795!) you need to average $1,645 a week for 15 months. You are eligible for a maximum of six months.

Fine.

However, everyone currently eligible for unemployment in Hawaii will receive $605 - $1,230, the equivalent of 59.9 – 121.78 hours of the minimum wage. Everyone currently eligible for unemployment in Massachusetts will receive $645 - $1,395, the equivalent of 50.59 – 109.41 hours of the minimum wage. Mississippi will pay $630 - $835, the equivalent of 86.9 – 115.17 hours of the minimum wage. Washington will pay $778 - $1,349, the equivalent of 57.63 –99.93 hours of the minimum wage. So, someone laid off from a full-time job that paid the minimum wage will receive 25 – 200% more. Is that what the government determined was the minimum livable wage?

Absolutely not.

I feel that the $600 a week was the simplest way to help tens of millions of people. How long would it take to verify the last year of pay and financial needs for 50,000,000 people?

Sources:
https://www.mass.gov/info-details/ho...are-determined
https://www.paycor.com/resource-cent...-wage-by-state
https://singlemotherguide.com/unemployment-insurance/

[freebeard]

Is that enough?
How long would it take to verify the last year of pay and financial needs for 50,000,000 people?

I have no idea.

I had a look at lanecounty.org/: Testing, Patient and Resource Information

TESTING STATUS IN LANE COUNTY*

At least 1,643 tests conducted for Lane County residents (including private labs)
This number is likely below the actual number of tests conducted. Private labs are processing tests from Lane County residents and there is variability in reporting of negative results. Lane County Public Health is being notified of any positive test results.
45 positive test results for Lane County
1 death in Lane County due to suspected Coronavirus infection

I can't copy-pasta the chart, but it shows cases as:

0-19 —2
20-39 —8
40-59 —19
60-69 —9
70+ —7

So 40-59 has as many cases as all those younger or all those older.

[Fat Charlie]

Originally Posted by Xist

... Is that what the government determined was the minimum livable wage?

Absolutely not.

I feel that the $600 a week was the simplest way to help tens of millions of people. How long would it take to verify the last year of pay and financial needs for 50,000,000 people?

Actually, they came out and said that.

Unemployment + $600 was a number that enough Congresscritters felt was the minimum for people they had to pretend they cared about, and firing the same amount at everyone is not only easier to do, it's easier to defend: if no one paid into that insurance pot, no one has a claim on a bigger payout than anyone else. And contractors/self employed/gig economy types haven't been paying into any regular unemployment pot at all, but now they're getting something to help out during an emergency they had no part in creating. The states don't have the money to take care of everyone, so Washington might as well borrow/print it. It might even help.

The guy I laid off last week barely grossed $600 a week, so he'll be getting a raise once Washington's money kicks in. I'm happy for him, it'll be a long time before I need him back.